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<blockquote data-quote="Fly Carpin" data-source="post: 180972" data-attributes="member: 1187"><p>If the opportunity for me to buy a bow tag and donate $30 for rifle and $30 for muzzleloader for 7-11 years (I'm sitting at 7 rifle points and 10 muzz points) is taken away for a one tag system, how is that the same revenue? Are there fewer people applying because of bow hunters? Am I wrong in assuming that I'm in the minority for donating my app dollars since they started offering that option? </p><p></p><p>Here's my final take. KDM said it well. Division amongst hunters is the beginning of the end. If archery is having such a drastic impact on the herd (Herd. Not heard. Cripes you guys) that it's affecting how many rifle tags are given out, maybe the harvest survey needs a tweak. I for one, as someone thoroughly schooled in both wildlife biology and statistics, would fully support a mandatory reporting system. You have to report results for every big game tag you buy. We all know relying on aerial survey and voluntary harvest surveys has its limitations. Make it like the big 3. You don't report, you don't hunt. But put the onus on hunters. If we want a system where every single deer is accounted for and tag numbers are adjusted accordingly, we can't also expect bargain barrel tag prices. </p><p></p><p>Furthermore, I've yet to hear an argument for the one tag system that wasn't prefaced with "I have X number of preference points and these dang bow hunters go out and shoot a buck every year. It ain't fair I tells ya!" We live in a state where the rifle success rate is 70% or higher. Kansas, Nebraska, and SD are all in similar boats. That's unfathomable. You want sad numbers, look at Michigan, Wisconsin, and even Minnesota. Sure the hunting style is night and day, but we live in a place where 70% of the time, you're going to kill. The system isn't broke fellas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fly Carpin, post: 180972, member: 1187"] If the opportunity for me to buy a bow tag and donate $30 for rifle and $30 for muzzleloader for 7-11 years (I'm sitting at 7 rifle points and 10 muzz points) is taken away for a one tag system, how is that the same revenue? Are there fewer people applying because of bow hunters? Am I wrong in assuming that I'm in the minority for donating my app dollars since they started offering that option? Here's my final take. KDM said it well. Division amongst hunters is the beginning of the end. If archery is having such a drastic impact on the herd (Herd. Not heard. Cripes you guys) that it's affecting how many rifle tags are given out, maybe the harvest survey needs a tweak. I for one, as someone thoroughly schooled in both wildlife biology and statistics, would fully support a mandatory reporting system. You have to report results for every big game tag you buy. We all know relying on aerial survey and voluntary harvest surveys has its limitations. Make it like the big 3. You don't report, you don't hunt. But put the onus on hunters. If we want a system where every single deer is accounted for and tag numbers are adjusted accordingly, we can't also expect bargain barrel tag prices. Furthermore, I've yet to hear an argument for the one tag system that wasn't prefaced with "I have X number of preference points and these dang bow hunters go out and shoot a buck every year. It ain't fair I tells ya!" We live in a state where the rifle success rate is 70% or higher. Kansas, Nebraska, and SD are all in similar boats. That's unfathomable. You want sad numbers, look at Michigan, Wisconsin, and even Minnesota. Sure the hunting style is night and day, but we live in a place where 70% of the time, you're going to kill. The system isn't broke fellas. [/QUOTE]
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