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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 180665" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>Jeesh plains sounds like ya miss me over on Nodak Outhouse. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>You claim you :know me" yet have never met me ...</p><p></p><p>I never was an "officer" for the "Cattlemans association.....</p><p></p><p>American Lands Council specifically prohibits the sale of public lands in their mission statement............</p><p></p><p>you really should bother to get your facts right a bit more. </p><p></p><p><strong><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=174042#p1052434" target="_blank">Re: Deer rifle license are out</a></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1052434#p1052434" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=995" target="_blank">Plainsman</a></strong> » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:54 pm</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: inherit"><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>north1 wrote:I really think farm organizations should unite with hunters not some on both sides driving wedges between one another. Farm bureau, farmers union, rancher associations. Start a program with willing landowners to provide FREE hunting opportunities to young hunters. Hunters are important to both farmers and ranchers. They keep wildlife populations under control which helps cut crop losses. They reduce predatory species numbers which in turn helps ranchers during calving. Reduce prairie dog populations which improves grazing. Hunter groups support CRP which benefits farmers with marginal land and ranchers for hay production in drought years. Sure there are problems with programs and give and take between the groups that needs to occur. In truth, however; we have MUCH more in common than the differences between us. Heck, a lot of us are both hunters and farmers and ranchers.</em></p></span></span></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: inherit"></p><p>Keep on talking north1 you give me hope. I have said it dozens of times and perhaps am repeating it here, but organizations unlike individuals have no soul or conscience. You and I don't see pure black and white and can compromise on things. Organizations like DU can only think ducks, and organizations like NDFB can only see corn. You and I can see ducks and corn. Nothing drives a wedge like an organization trying to improve things for one group while shafting the other group.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: inherit"></span></span><span style="color: #0000ff">For example <strong>I know one guy</strong> who in the past was an <strong>officer for the Cattleman's association</strong>. If he could get on here he would be trying to drive a wedge between you and I right now. <strong>He only sees cows</strong>. <strong>Everyone else is a pion to serve him.</strong> The guy says he isn't for selling off public land, but in the next breath tells everyone how much better the access would be for hunters and how much better the land would be managed. He supports the <strong>American Land Council which is a strong advocate of selling off the public land.</strong> Nothing would kill hunting faster. Even a city slicker needs land he can walk across and behold God's creation and get that feeling of freedom.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Kind of a measure of a person plains, block them from the site you moderate and then malign their character and tell lies while you pretend to ignore them on a site they post on, very church councilish behavior........ :;:smokin</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Anyways the CRP haying in the RRV where the hay is being donated is happening as we type. I have heard a few folks are donating their CRP haven;t heard how many. </p><p></p><p>the fella that jump started it spoke of how people came from all across the state to help during the floods and he simply wished to give a bit back. </p><p></p><p>NDFB is also starting a hay donation program ot help those dealing with this drought. </p><p></p><p>The Ag Dept has a hay donation program as well. </p><p></p><p>In response ot a program I was involved in this spring that some on here donated to (thanks again) where NDFB generated well over one hundred thousand dollars to help those ranchers that were impacted by fires down south, some of those groups and people down there are returning the favor sending hay back north.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 180665, member: 373"] Jeesh plains sounds like ya miss me over on Nodak Outhouse. ;) You claim you :know me" yet have never met me ... I never was an "officer" for the "Cattlemans association..... American Lands Council specifically prohibits the sale of public lands in their mission statement............ you really should bother to get your facts right a bit more. [B][URL="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=174042#p1052434"]Re: Deer rifle license are out[/URL][/B] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1052434#p1052434"][IMG]http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif[/IMG][/URL]by [B][URL="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=995"]Plainsman[/URL][/B] » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:54 pm[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT='inherit'][INDENT][I]north1 wrote:I really think farm organizations should unite with hunters not some on both sides driving wedges between one another. Farm bureau, farmers union, rancher associations. Start a program with willing landowners to provide FREE hunting opportunities to young hunters. Hunters are important to both farmers and ranchers. They keep wildlife populations under control which helps cut crop losses. They reduce predatory species numbers which in turn helps ranchers during calving. Reduce prairie dog populations which improves grazing. Hunter groups support CRP which benefits farmers with marginal land and ranchers for hay production in drought years. Sure there are problems with programs and give and take between the groups that needs to occur. In truth, however; we have MUCH more in common than the differences between us. Heck, a lot of us are both hunters and farmers and ranchers.[/I] [/INDENT] Keep on talking north1 you give me hope. I have said it dozens of times and perhaps am repeating it here, but organizations unlike individuals have no soul or conscience. You and I don't see pure black and white and can compromise on things. Organizations like DU can only think ducks, and organizations like NDFB can only see corn. You and I can see ducks and corn. Nothing drives a wedge like an organization trying to improve things for one group while shafting the other group. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff]For example [B]I know one guy[/B] who in the past was an [B]officer for the Cattleman's association[/B]. If he could get on here he would be trying to drive a wedge between you and I right now. [B]He only sees cows[/B]. [B]Everyone else is a pion to serve him.[/B] The guy says he isn't for selling off public land, but in the next breath tells everyone how much better the access would be for hunters and how much better the land would be managed. He supports the [B]American Land Council which is a strong advocate of selling off the public land.[/B] Nothing would kill hunting faster. Even a city slicker needs land he can walk across and behold God's creation and get that feeling of freedom.[/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT='inherit'][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Kind of a measure of a person plains, block them from the site you moderate and then malign their character and tell lies while you pretend to ignore them on a site they post on, very church councilish behavior........ :;:smokin [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Anyways the CRP haying in the RRV where the hay is being donated is happening as we type. I have heard a few folks are donating their CRP haven;t heard how many. the fella that jump started it spoke of how people came from all across the state to help during the floods and he simply wished to give a bit back. NDFB is also starting a hay donation program ot help those dealing with this drought. The Ag Dept has a hay donation program as well. In response ot a program I was involved in this spring that some on here donated to (thanks again) where NDFB generated well over one hundred thousand dollars to help those ranchers that were impacted by fires down south, some of those groups and people down there are returning the favor sending hay back north. [/QUOTE]
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