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<blockquote data-quote="Up Y'oars" data-source="post: 274934" data-attributes="member: 764">A.&nbsp; Do not stop with the commands to bring the ball.&nbsp; When my dog alters his strategy (getting tired and just drops ball 1/2-way back to me) I just say &quot;noooo, bring it here&quot; and he will turn around and go back to retrieve.&nbsp; I always use reinforcement, good or bad, after every retrieve, no matter what.&nbsp; I reward him on that final retrieve when he hands me the ball/dummy by &quot;good boy&quot;.&nbsp; He needs to know that his going back and getting that ball, even when he didn't really want to, is worth that warm fuzzy.&nbsp; I also tell my friends in training their dog &quot;90% is failing&quot;.&nbsp; In other words, you cannot do it some times and not do it other times.&nbsp; Stick to the line because a dog doesn't comprehend that you meant to tell him &quot;good boy&quot; and didn't.&nbsp; ALWAYS go through those training commands and you will always have a well-trained dog!&nbsp; Your kids may also be working against those training commands by letting him drop the ball and they go pick it up to throw it again.&nbsp; He is now understanding that he doesn't HAVE to hand the ball over.&nbsp; There again, 90% is failure.&nbsp; He's adapting to both structures and you should keep him on that narrow path to hunting dog success with owner commands.&nbsp; At least, it has paid off for me.&nbsp; My dog is now over 9yo and I rarely have to alter my commands because he knows there isn't a 10% adjustment anywhere along his fun with me.&nbsp; When I notice he's tired we are done with tossing the ball, but I'll also go lay in the grass and have 'other' types of fun with him, too.- - - Updated - - -B.&nbsp; I see these similar behaviors with my dog &quot;whining&quot; rather than barking, growling, etc.&nbsp; I, again, always address those behaviors and say &quot;no&quot; or &quot;knock it off&quot; and my dog will 99% of the time stop it.&nbsp; He knows that I'm the alpha and it isn't a welcomed behavior.&nbsp; You also should get into that habit.&nbsp; It may be, once more, than the children are accepting of that behavior and it goes against how you work with your dog.&nbsp; Eventually, your dog will learn and adapt to what things you want over time.&nbsp; Be patient and in a year or two you will only have to have those reactions randomly here or there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Up Y'oars, post: 274934, member: 764"] A. Do not stop with the commands to bring the ball. When my dog alters his strategy (getting tired and just drops ball 1/2-way back to me) I just say "noooo, bring it here" and he will turn around and go back to retrieve. I [U]always[/U] use reinforcement, good or bad, after every retrieve, no matter what. I reward him on that final retrieve when he hands me the ball/dummy by "good boy". He needs to know that his going back and getting that ball, even when he didn't really want to, is worth that warm fuzzy. I also tell my friends in training their dog "90% is failing". In other words, you cannot do it some times and not do it other times. Stick to the line because a dog doesn't comprehend that you meant to tell him "good boy" and didn't. ALWAYS go through those training commands and you will always have a well-trained dog! Your kids may also be working against those training commands by letting him drop the ball and they go pick it up to throw it again. He is now understanding that he doesn't HAVE to hand the ball over. There again, 90% is failure. He's adapting to both structures and you should keep him on that narrow path to hunting dog success with owner commands. At least, it has paid off for me. My dog is now over 9yo and I rarely have to alter my commands because he knows there isn't a 10% adjustment anywhere along his fun with me. When I notice he's tired we are done with tossing the ball, but I'll also go lay in the grass and have 'other' types of fun with him, too. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] B. I see these similar behaviors with my dog "whining" rather than barking, growling, etc. I, again, always address those behaviors and say "no" or "knock it off" and my dog will 99% of the time stop it. He knows that I'm the alpha and it isn't a welcomed behavior. You also should get into that habit. It may be, once more, than the children are accepting of that behavior and it goes against how you work with your dog. Eventually, your dog will learn and adapt to what things you want over time. Be patient and in a year or two you will only have to have those reactions randomly here or there. [/QUOTE]

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