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<blockquote data-quote="svnmag" data-source="post: 371208" data-attributes="member: 330">You have a shitton of class yet continue to fill a vile tube with yellow shells.&nbsp;1oz is a Square Load and will blow the bottom out of a bucket @40 from a FC Model 12 pre WinSteel and chamber lengthened to 2 3/4.&nbsp; As you've read many times before:&nbsp; It's a turkey/late season pheasant gun which just turned 100 <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😲" title="Astonished face&nbsp; &nbsp; :astonished:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f632.png" data-shortname=":astonished:" /> this year.&nbsp; IDK--It will also &quot;kick&quot; the ever living dog shit out of the shooter:&nbsp; Carrying is pleasant:&nbsp; Discharging is not for the uninitiated.With an 1oz shell I'd compare the recoil to an '06(?).&nbsp; With 1/8oz loads it's like a holy shit(?!!) and doesn't pattern as tight.&nbsp; My &quot;gun experienced&quot; sister totally destroyed a Bud can @40 (1oz/low brass--#6 shot) and handed me the gun with actual tears in her eyes.&nbsp; This is all &quot;offhand&quot; anecdotes.&nbsp; I believe &quot;off the bench&quot; I'd be in .458 territory.Despite all the above the 16 is the perfect gauge.&nbsp; Do not think you can &quot;save&quot; a youth from &quot;kick&quot; with a 20.&nbsp; MOST/ALL factory loads try to achieve 12ga performance in a smaller hull and lighter gun.Sorry for the hijack.&nbsp;That is all:[MEDIA=youtube]dgy5ph33BRE[/MEDIA][MEDIA=youtube]Twsb0SBP9pI[/MEDIA]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="svnmag, post: 371208, member: 330"] You have a shitton of class yet continue to fill a vile tube with yellow shells. 1oz is a Square Load and will blow the bottom out of a bucket @40 from a FC Model 12 pre WinSteel and chamber lengthened to 2 3/4. As you've read many times before: It's a turkey/late season pheasant gun which just turned 100 😲 this year. IDK--It will also "kick" the ever living dog shit out of the shooter: Carrying is pleasant: Discharging is not for the uninitiated. With an 1oz shell I'd compare the recoil to an '06(?). With 1/8oz loads it's like a holy shit(?!!) and doesn't pattern as tight. My "gun experienced" sister totally destroyed a Bud can @40 (1oz/low brass--#6 shot) and handed me the gun with actual tears in her eyes. This is all "offhand" anecdotes. I believe "off the bench" I'd be in .458 territory. Despite all the above the 16 is the perfect gauge. [B]Do not[/B] think you can "save" a youth from "kick" with a 20. MOST/ALL factory loads try to achieve 12ga performance in a smaller hull and lighter gun. Sorry for the hijack. That is all: [MEDIA=youtube]dgy5ph33BRE[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]Twsb0SBP9pI[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]

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