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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NDbowman" data-source="post: 496039" data-attributes="member: 1525">So much to say about electric fence. From how to tie it, how to un wind it, Use good cermanic insulators where its tied off to post and insultube over the wire anywere you have to jump the hot wire around posts, a good ground is super important, generally its recommended to use three ground rods spaced like 6 to 8 feet apart. Get yourself a fault finder, it saves alot of time if you have a short and tells you how strong your electric shock is.I have  a love hate thing with electric fences. They are fairly simple and fast to put up and when working well there is no second to what it will keep in or in your case what it will keep out. Shorts in the fence can be maddening. For example, I have a barb wire fence around a 120 acre pasture  that has a few cross fences where one wire is hot. last fall when I brought the cows home and weaned calves, I went and checked it and had a few shorts. Some from deer running through it and knocking insulators off and the other really bad short was a tree on the fence. Got that all taken care, weaned calves, took cows to another pasture after a few day. Well like 2 weeks later I need to bring the cows back home, check fence, no power, super short. Found a spot where a deer had went through and tangled hot wire to a non hot wire. Fault finder will point in the direction of where the short is unless its a super short that sucks all teh power out of fence. Got that fixed and went through winter, calving starts and I want to use these small paddocks for calving, check fence, bad short again. One stretch of cross fence I used a cheaper insulator and the pins on those insulators will slowly over time work their way out due to wind or vibrations, I really don't know. but like three of those insulators the pin had worked out and the wire was touching the Tpost. I recommend gallagher insulators and fence products. If you want posts that don't short there are plastic posts called forever posts that you can staple the wire right to post and it won't short as the whole post is plastic, and it'll never rot. downside is expensive. There are some other fiberglass posts and gallagher makes one more for temporary fence but it is also quite expensive.It may cost alot more but if you're doing this for a long term project which I believe you are. I'd seriously consider interloc woven wire and skip the electric fence. Or you could tell the game and fish your having trouble with deer getting into your hay and get them to build you a hay fence to keep the deer out. I worked for a custom fencer years ago and we built a couple hay fences where the material was provided by the game and fish. I know the one fence we built was used by the rancher to feed his cattle in the winter and never stored hay in it.</blockquote>

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