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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 106007" data-attributes="member: 373"><p><span style="color: #333333">"however there are a few that love money so much they continue to assault the average sportsman in nd. "</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">I am curious about this statement when viewed thru what people expect of their represenatives from this perspective. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Say 50% of the people in a legislators district are sportsmen and lets take one issue NR waterfowl licenses. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">80% of those sportsmen hunt waterfowl. so you are at 40% of a representatives constituents. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Out of that 40%, 25% of them have friends or relatives from out of state that come back to hunt waterfowl and support the more liberal season legislation. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">So now you are down to 30% of this representatives constituents that may be opposed to a bill liberalizing seasons for NR. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Other people in his district have various businesses impacted favorably by more liberal season dates and as said before relatives that come back to hunt so it talleys up 30% that are for the legislation being sponsored. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">So who is he supposed to represent? </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Someone always thinks their ox is being gored. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Look at the article written by Trent Loos in the armed protest thread. He put together a group of stakeholders to discuss this Federal lands issue and the group he could nolt get much participation out of was the wildlife orgs. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Why not? </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Because behind them (not most of the folks hoping to win a gun at the banquet that don';t have a say in policy) many of those in power ("money worshipers" themselves), don;t want to work together with other stakeholders to find an out come that benefits everyone. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">They know especially at the Federal level and in more liberal states they are winning. And what most sportsmen do not realize is that these orgs many times do not have their best interests at heart but rather those of the hardline environmentalists. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Just look to all the access being closed at the Federal level on these "public" lands and who is behind it. Look to everything being kicked off these multiple use "public" lands. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">I was friends with Marty Beard on FB from the "my wife is seeing another man" thread. Before he disappeared he had a thing on there about either the NDG&F or the CORP closing access to shore fishing somewhere south of Bismarck I think it was. He raised a stink and people spoke out and got it changed. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">So before people think the pendelum only swings one way, that is not how a pendelum works. SOMETHING has pushed hard enough the other way to get it to swing back so far. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">We can argue about the chicken or the egg, but that does little to solve the problem. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333">Keeping an eye on our legislators and those behind them is one of the ways to slow this pendelum down. Foolish rhetoric and false claims only makes it swing harder and farther. </span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 106007, member: 373"] [COLOR=#333333]"however there are a few that love money so much they continue to assault the average sportsman in nd. " I am curious about this statement when viewed thru what people expect of their represenatives from this perspective. Say 50% of the people in a legislators district are sportsmen and lets take one issue NR waterfowl licenses. 80% of those sportsmen hunt waterfowl. so you are at 40% of a representatives constituents. Out of that 40%, 25% of them have friends or relatives from out of state that come back to hunt waterfowl and support the more liberal season legislation. So now you are down to 30% of this representatives constituents that may be opposed to a bill liberalizing seasons for NR. Other people in his district have various businesses impacted favorably by more liberal season dates and as said before relatives that come back to hunt so it talleys up 30% that are for the legislation being sponsored. So who is he supposed to represent? Someone always thinks their ox is being gored. Look at the article written by Trent Loos in the armed protest thread. He put together a group of stakeholders to discuss this Federal lands issue and the group he could nolt get much participation out of was the wildlife orgs. Why not? Because behind them (not most of the folks hoping to win a gun at the banquet that don';t have a say in policy) many of those in power ("money worshipers" themselves), don;t want to work together with other stakeholders to find an out come that benefits everyone. They know especially at the Federal level and in more liberal states they are winning. And what most sportsmen do not realize is that these orgs many times do not have their best interests at heart but rather those of the hardline environmentalists. Just look to all the access being closed at the Federal level on these "public" lands and who is behind it. Look to everything being kicked off these multiple use "public" lands. I was friends with Marty Beard on FB from the "my wife is seeing another man" thread. Before he disappeared he had a thing on there about either the NDG&F or the CORP closing access to shore fishing somewhere south of Bismarck I think it was. He raised a stink and people spoke out and got it changed. So before people think the pendelum only swings one way, that is not how a pendelum works. SOMETHING has pushed hard enough the other way to get it to swing back so far. We can argue about the chicken or the egg, but that does little to solve the problem. Keeping an eye on our legislators and those behind them is one of the ways to slow this pendelum down. Foolish rhetoric and false claims only makes it swing harder and farther. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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