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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 106029" data-attributes="member: 373">I am not a supporter of govt involved in agriculture either. If you can convince my banker not to require enrollment in the programs for the ag loans they lend I am all for it. Indeed I could choose to be in a different profession but then I would have to ask if I was a true conservative to buy "subsidized" groceries under this nations food security programs.................The point here is what one advocates for. bigger more controlling govt or less intrusive less controlling govt. The Founders intent was to have states and We the people being able to control the Federal govt not the other way around. If you are okay with Federal agencies creating laws without true representation of the people and arming their own enforcement agencies with fully auto weapons  and want these entities controlling more and more lands and gaining more and more power to take private lands...............we are deffinately of different ideologies.- - - Updated - - -Back to the point of this thread here is govt whether state or Federal has to be watched like a hawk or human nature takes over. I simply think it is easier to hold those people and agencies at the state level more accountable easier than our Federal representatives and agencies. If I am wrong, please show some examples.</blockquote>