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<blockquote data-quote="shorthairsrus" data-source="post: 359548" data-attributes="member: 219"><p>believe it or not i bought one last month. Holdover 22 --- i guess one could say i was hedging price increases. I didnt get the discount i got back when i bought my last one but was quite surprised of the one i did when it all got said and done. The lots are fillng, they know it and they need to sell em. </p><p></p><p>Plenty of torque and HP to pull the boat.</p><p></p><p>If i wanted total reliability --- i would of bought a low mile used Tundra with the 5.7 -- hands down. No other truck would come close. My wifes toy never seen the inside of a garage except for oil changes. I got a buddy that is a mechanic - he concurs.. When i asked him about the new ones --- he looked down didnt want to say it -- but he said ford v8 5.0 would be the only truck he would purchase now. It was hard for him to say the word Ford -- i dont think he can even dodge exists in his vocab nor could his eyes look further down. GM has all the engine issues lifters bull shit and now they are trying to power a full size truck with a 4 cylinder that still uses AFM. GM has lost it totally what do you need afm on a 4 cyc plus they spend to much coin on E. I have to many friends that had problems, i almost bought one then every story led me to think of my last GM where they had to replace my engine after years of wasting my time. He said to many new things on the new toyotas - jury is out. New Toy still comes in 2nd before buying a GM. </p><p></p><p>2.7 my little experience as i dont have a k on it yet. 1 it makes 2-3 mpg in town better in town then my old 3.5. They dont break in mileage wise until 70k imo.</p><p></p><p>2.7 Turbo much more responsive then my 3.5, my 3.5 though was 1st gen if i remember correctly. I am assuming they changed the 3.5s too, I have to admit i only pulled (other than my boat) heavy stuff very little. I had a camper 35 foot -- overall and yes it met the qs to pull with a 1/2 ton. 3.5 wouldnt even shift on a hill - sob would just burn gas and keep speed. It never grunted either - the sewing machine sounding engine would sound the same if it back that camper up a hill or not. Somebody has to explain how ford does that-- my old gm v8s sound would grunt hard to move anything.</p><p></p><p></p><p>To the ones that dis the turbos--- if you live in rural nd you dont need one; in fact if i lived on gravel i wouldnt own a turbo -- however if you travel alot commute and go through big cities --- thats where they shine. They have power at low mid and high not like a V8 in which you have to put your foot into it. I never had one issue with my 3.5 engine itself or the turbos . The problems i had were all pain in the ass stuff - camera, heater fan and doors, wiring, list goes on fix or repair daily stuff what ford is know for. Everyone is worried about turbos -- like my GM only dad said - "how many years have turbos been out"</p><p></p><p>Spark plugs in the ecos --- change em at 50k. Maybe the new ones are better - but imo change em.</p><p></p><p>Diesel -- who wants to fk with def -- i dont think the mileage works out based on the price of diesel vs gas. </p><p></p><p>Last mileage -- where to the eco shines imo is mileage in town/ not on the hwy. I do a lot commuting. Figure out the mileage diff vs a 6.2 gm in town vs the eco. Over the years it adds up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shorthairsrus, post: 359548, member: 219"] believe it or not i bought one last month. Holdover 22 --- i guess one could say i was hedging price increases. I didnt get the discount i got back when i bought my last one but was quite surprised of the one i did when it all got said and done. The lots are fillng, they know it and they need to sell em. Plenty of torque and HP to pull the boat. If i wanted total reliability --- i would of bought a low mile used Tundra with the 5.7 -- hands down. No other truck would come close. My wifes toy never seen the inside of a garage except for oil changes. I got a buddy that is a mechanic - he concurs.. When i asked him about the new ones --- he looked down didnt want to say it -- but he said ford v8 5.0 would be the only truck he would purchase now. It was hard for him to say the word Ford -- i dont think he can even dodge exists in his vocab nor could his eyes look further down. GM has all the engine issues lifters bull shit and now they are trying to power a full size truck with a 4 cylinder that still uses AFM. GM has lost it totally what do you need afm on a 4 cyc plus they spend to much coin on E. I have to many friends that had problems, i almost bought one then every story led me to think of my last GM where they had to replace my engine after years of wasting my time. He said to many new things on the new toyotas - jury is out. New Toy still comes in 2nd before buying a GM. 2.7 my little experience as i dont have a k on it yet. 1 it makes 2-3 mpg in town better in town then my old 3.5. They dont break in mileage wise until 70k imo. 2.7 Turbo much more responsive then my 3.5, my 3.5 though was 1st gen if i remember correctly. I am assuming they changed the 3.5s too, I have to admit i only pulled (other than my boat) heavy stuff very little. I had a camper 35 foot -- overall and yes it met the qs to pull with a 1/2 ton. 3.5 wouldnt even shift on a hill - sob would just burn gas and keep speed. It never grunted either - the sewing machine sounding engine would sound the same if it back that camper up a hill or not. Somebody has to explain how ford does that-- my old gm v8s sound would grunt hard to move anything. To the ones that dis the turbos--- if you live in rural nd you dont need one; in fact if i lived on gravel i wouldnt own a turbo -- however if you travel alot commute and go through big cities --- thats where they shine. They have power at low mid and high not like a V8 in which you have to put your foot into it. I never had one issue with my 3.5 engine itself or the turbos . The problems i had were all pain in the ass stuff - camera, heater fan and doors, wiring, list goes on fix or repair daily stuff what ford is know for. Everyone is worried about turbos -- like my GM only dad said - "how many years have turbos been out" Spark plugs in the ecos --- change em at 50k. Maybe the new ones are better - but imo change em. Diesel -- who wants to fk with def -- i dont think the mileage works out based on the price of diesel vs gas. Last mileage -- where to the eco shines imo is mileage in town/ not on the hwy. I do a lot commuting. Figure out the mileage diff vs a 6.2 gm in town vs the eco. Over the years it adds up. [/QUOTE]
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