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<blockquote data-quote="Brian Renville" data-source="post: 219409" data-attributes="member: 256"><p>Gear, cooler, bait, bucket(god fobid a guy wants to keep a pike to put in it and take home). I know how much alot of guys on here love it when people C&R their beloved walleye eaters. Add a kid or two into that equation and holy smokes that's a hike. Honestly if the rules were this way when I was a kid I'd probably have never got into fishing. None of those guys would have even bothered to take us kids out. Lets keep in mind this isn't a casting/flyfishing area where a guy can pack light, a pole and a little box of lures with him and do just as well as someone with something that belongs in a cooler or a bucket. Can a guy catch a few like that, yes but not even close to a preferred method. </p><p></p><p>I'm with you though that ATV's are a pain in the ass and I believe that the ones causing the problems aren't the ones fishing. I hate the garbage most of all, we keep far more buckets of garbage than fish. Mostly booze remnants for sure. I wish there was a way to exercise some discretion when making the rules. I'm going to fish anyway I can handle it, I grew up in the area and I make it work. Just something about making it harder for folks to do something good for their families or to just be a guy trying to make a quick trip out rubs me the wrong way. We can even take fishing out of it. If a family wants to get a spot away from the yelling, cussing, and drinking and just hang out and let the kids play in the water, it's tough to pack light with kids, they have to go on quite a hike. Most would rather stay in town and find something else. All because they can't drive from the road to the lake. I'm also a guy that generally stays away from others when fishing if i can hear another persons conversation I feel like I'm too close even then the situation still annoys me that it makes things less available to people. </p><p></p><p>Let's also keep in mind the area we are talking about isn't the bird habitat in question. From my understanding they nest on sand bars that predators would have to swim to. Reality is if they want that habitat back Garrison Dam has to go. As crazy as it sounds there are groups trying just that. They got their hooks in Montana at intake now and they have targets on every other dam in the system. They pick a species and run with it. All it takes is for a judge(don't turn your back on the 9th district) to hear the case and taxpayers will be on the hook for legal fees that will make recreation impact dollars pointless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brian Renville, post: 219409, member: 256"] Gear, cooler, bait, bucket(god fobid a guy wants to keep a pike to put in it and take home). I know how much alot of guys on here love it when people C&R their beloved walleye eaters. Add a kid or two into that equation and holy smokes that's a hike. Honestly if the rules were this way when I was a kid I'd probably have never got into fishing. None of those guys would have even bothered to take us kids out. Lets keep in mind this isn't a casting/flyfishing area where a guy can pack light, a pole and a little box of lures with him and do just as well as someone with something that belongs in a cooler or a bucket. Can a guy catch a few like that, yes but not even close to a preferred method. I'm with you though that ATV's are a pain in the ass and I believe that the ones causing the problems aren't the ones fishing. I hate the garbage most of all, we keep far more buckets of garbage than fish. Mostly booze remnants for sure. I wish there was a way to exercise some discretion when making the rules. I'm going to fish anyway I can handle it, I grew up in the area and I make it work. Just something about making it harder for folks to do something good for their families or to just be a guy trying to make a quick trip out rubs me the wrong way. We can even take fishing out of it. If a family wants to get a spot away from the yelling, cussing, and drinking and just hang out and let the kids play in the water, it's tough to pack light with kids, they have to go on quite a hike. Most would rather stay in town and find something else. All because they can't drive from the road to the lake. I'm also a guy that generally stays away from others when fishing if i can hear another persons conversation I feel like I'm too close even then the situation still annoys me that it makes things less available to people. Let's also keep in mind the area we are talking about isn't the bird habitat in question. From my understanding they nest on sand bars that predators would have to swim to. Reality is if they want that habitat back Garrison Dam has to go. As crazy as it sounds there are groups trying just that. They got their hooks in Montana at intake now and they have targets on every other dam in the system. They pick a species and run with it. All it takes is for a judge(don't turn your back on the 9th district) to hear the case and taxpayers will be on the hook for legal fees that will make recreation impact dollars pointless. [/QUOTE]
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