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<blockquote data-quote="eseamands" data-source="post: 206643" data-attributes="member: 629"><p>A friend of mine sent me this in a text message this morning. I just thought it would be appropriate for this discussion and that it is an interesting read and mind-set.</p><p></p><p>“How many kids have been killed by school fire in all of North America in the past 50 years? Kids killed... school fire... North America... 50 years... How many? Zero. That’s right. Not one single kid has been killed by school fire anywhere in North America in the past half a century.</p><p> </p><p>Now, how many kids have been killed by school violence?”</p><p> </p><p> Standing on the stage of a highschool auditorium, Grossman walked to the side nearest a wall as he addressed the crowd.</p><p> </p><p>"Look up at the ceiling! See all those sprinklers up there? They’re hard to spot — they’re painted black — but they’re there. While you’re looking, look at the material the ceiling is made of. You know that that stuff was selected because it’s fire-retardant. Hooah? Now look over there above the door — you see that fire exit sign? That’s not just any fire exit sign — that’s a ‘battery-backup-when-the-world-ends-it-will-still-be-lit’ fire exit sign. Hooah?”</p><p> </p><p> He walked to the other side, nearby a fire exit and exterior wall, Grossman slammed the palm of his hand against the wall and exclaimed, “Look at these wall boards! They were chosen because they’re what?! Fireproof or fire retardant, hooah? There is not one stinking thing in this room that will burn!”</p><p> </p><p> Pointing around the room as he spoke, Grossman continued, “But you’ve still got those fire sprinklers, those fire exit signs, fire hydrants outside, and fire trucks nearby! Are these fire guys crazy? Are these fire guys paranoid? No! This fire guy is our A+ student! Because this fire guy has redundant, overlapping layers of protection, not a single kid has been killed by school fire in the last 50 years!"</p><p> </p><p> “But you try to prepare for violence — the thing much more likely to kill our kids in schools, the thing hundreds of times more likely to kill our kids in schools, and people think you’re paranoid. They think you’re crazy. They’re in denial.”</p><p> </p><p> I want you to stop for a moment and think about how much fucking money is spent on ways to put fires out and stop them from spreading. How much time is spent on training what to do if a fire burns and spreads? Now how much money and time is spent on stopping violence?</p><p> </p><p>Very little because it makes YOU UNCOMFORTABLE.</p><p> </p><p>The idea of trained staff and security with firearms in your children's schools shocks you. Well... reality check. The image of your child in a casket due to a murderer in school with a gun will be infinitely more shocking I guarantee you.</p><p> </p><p> Passing laws restricting firearms would have the same effect as passing laws against fire. If changes in firearm laws are your answer as to how we can save children's lives, you are naive, uninformed about human conflict, and frankly have nothing better to fucking offer. You are grasping at straws in the darkness of ignorance. I do not hold it against you. Anyone asked to solve a problem they are not equipped to solve will make an effort to do so if they believe it to be necessary.</p><p> </p><p>ACCEPT that evil walks the earth and you or your children may one day see it.</p><p> </p><p>LEARN about how the human reacts in moments of danger and peril.</p><p> </p><p>DEVELOP SKILLS to stay alive whatever they may be.</p><p> </p><p>SHARE the mindset, knowledge and skills with you children and loved ones.</p><p> </p><p>WATER puts out FIRE.</p><p>GUNS stop GUNS.</p><p> </p><p>You all keep pissing in the wind and wringing your hands.</p><p> </p><p>- Lt Col David Grossman"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eseamands, post: 206643, member: 629"] A friend of mine sent me this in a text message this morning. I just thought it would be appropriate for this discussion and that it is an interesting read and mind-set. “How many kids have been killed by school fire in all of North America in the past 50 years? Kids killed... school fire... North America... 50 years... How many? Zero. That’s right. Not one single kid has been killed by school fire anywhere in North America in the past half a century. Now, how many kids have been killed by school violence?” Standing on the stage of a highschool auditorium, Grossman walked to the side nearest a wall as he addressed the crowd. "Look up at the ceiling! See all those sprinklers up there? They’re hard to spot — they’re painted black — but they’re there. While you’re looking, look at the material the ceiling is made of. You know that that stuff was selected because it’s fire-retardant. Hooah? Now look over there above the door — you see that fire exit sign? That’s not just any fire exit sign — that’s a ‘battery-backup-when-the-world-ends-it-will-still-be-lit’ fire exit sign. Hooah?” He walked to the other side, nearby a fire exit and exterior wall, Grossman slammed the palm of his hand against the wall and exclaimed, “Look at these wall boards! They were chosen because they’re what?! Fireproof or fire retardant, hooah? There is not one stinking thing in this room that will burn!” Pointing around the room as he spoke, Grossman continued, “But you’ve still got those fire sprinklers, those fire exit signs, fire hydrants outside, and fire trucks nearby! Are these fire guys crazy? Are these fire guys paranoid? No! This fire guy is our A+ student! Because this fire guy has redundant, overlapping layers of protection, not a single kid has been killed by school fire in the last 50 years!" “But you try to prepare for violence — the thing much more likely to kill our kids in schools, the thing hundreds of times more likely to kill our kids in schools, and people think you’re paranoid. They think you’re crazy. They’re in denial.” I want you to stop for a moment and think about how much fucking money is spent on ways to put fires out and stop them from spreading. How much time is spent on training what to do if a fire burns and spreads? Now how much money and time is spent on stopping violence? Very little because it makes YOU UNCOMFORTABLE. The idea of trained staff and security with firearms in your children's schools shocks you. Well... reality check. The image of your child in a casket due to a murderer in school with a gun will be infinitely more shocking I guarantee you. Passing laws restricting firearms would have the same effect as passing laws against fire. If changes in firearm laws are your answer as to how we can save children's lives, you are naive, uninformed about human conflict, and frankly have nothing better to fucking offer. You are grasping at straws in the darkness of ignorance. I do not hold it against you. Anyone asked to solve a problem they are not equipped to solve will make an effort to do so if they believe it to be necessary. ACCEPT that evil walks the earth and you or your children may one day see it. LEARN about how the human reacts in moments of danger and peril. DEVELOP SKILLS to stay alive whatever they may be. SHARE the mindset, knowledge and skills with you children and loved ones. WATER puts out FIRE. GUNS stop GUNS. You all keep pissing in the wind and wringing your hands. - Lt Col David Grossman" [/QUOTE]
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