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<blockquote data-quote="Narcs" data-source="post: 294262" data-attributes="member: 542">Update on the mystery gun.&nbsp; Dad was able to send a few more pics, with some better detail.&nbsp; A trip to Vegas to visit with Rick and Chumlee did cross my mind, don't kid yourself !!&nbsp; Hell, if not for this virus crap, I could be on TV.&nbsp;&nbsp; I've shopped at H&amp;H many times, if I get this hunk of iron and wood in my hands I'll definitely pay those fellas a visit.&nbsp; I've spent a few hours on the inter-web trying to get some ideas, including antique gun and auction forums, with limited success. I suck at it (among many other things). If anyone has some specific websites or other guidance, feel free to toss it my way.&nbsp; Here's what I think I've learned:&nbsp; 1)&nbsp; The &quot;bell&quot; at the end of the barrel obviously has been attached, could possibly be removed with some great effort. This is abnormal, for sure. Dad can't tell if the barrel is smooth or rifled.&nbsp; He says it's very rusty inside. Also, the barrel starts out as maybe an octagon (or six sides), then transitions to smooth towards the muzzle. This seems odd. 2). I'm thinking this was made in late 1800's, maybe 1900's.&nbsp; Hard to explain why - maybe I picked the wrong week to stop huffing glue. 3) I've looked at hundreds of photos of wunderbluss.&nbsp; I can't find one that resembles anything close to the butt-end of this stock. 4) The brass &quot;straps&quot;, on the stock below the barrel, seem to be more common with &quot;Persian&quot;, or middle-eastern, wunderbluss. Those made in European countries don't seem to have this characteristic. 5) Apparently my uncle had traveled to Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. back in the early 1970's, and my father wonders if uncle had found this gun during his travels back then. This would support #4. 6) I read where there has been a market for &quot;reproduction&quot; wunderbluss in the middle-east for a number of decades.&nbsp; The &quot;guns&quot; are not operational, locals throw them together with whatever materials they have available, then sell them in tourist markets.&nbsp; This would correlate with #4 and #5 above. Anyway, the new pics are attached.&nbsp; Pic 1: Closer view of the hammer/percussion tip. Pic 2: Some engraving on the bottom of the trigger guard. Pic 3: The letters &quot;T&quot; and &quot;O&quot; stamped in the lock plate, below the hammerPic 4: The &quot;bell&quot; attached at the muzzlePic 5: Appears to be an ornate &quot;P&quot; also stamped in the lock plate, by the hammer. Pic 6: Possibly an &quot;M&quot; and a &quot;D&quot; engraved on the left end of lock plate.&nbsp; These appear to have been &quot;scrawled&quot; or engraved onto the plate, definitely not as clear, nor similar to, the other markings. If anyone has thoughts or ideas, throw them my way!&nbsp; Thanks in advance !&nbsp; The investigation continues . . . .. .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Narcs, post: 294262, member: 542"] Update on the mystery gun. Dad was able to send a few more pics, with some better detail. A trip to Vegas to visit with Rick and Chumlee did cross my mind, don't kid yourself !! Hell, if not for this virus crap, I could be on TV. I've shopped at H&H many times, if I get this hunk of iron and wood in my hands I'll definitely pay those fellas a visit. I've spent a few hours on the inter-web trying to get some ideas, including antique gun and auction forums, with limited success. I suck at it (among many other things). If anyone has some specific websites or other guidance, feel free to toss it my way. Here's what I think I've learned: 1) The "bell" at the end of the barrel obviously has been attached, could possibly be removed with some great effort. This is abnormal, for sure. Dad can't tell if the barrel is smooth or rifled. He says it's very rusty inside. Also, the barrel starts out as maybe an octagon (or six sides), then transitions to smooth towards the muzzle. This seems odd. 2). I'm thinking this was made in late 1800's, maybe 1900's. Hard to explain why - maybe I picked the wrong week to stop huffing glue. 3) I've looked at hundreds of photos of wunderbluss. I can't find one that resembles anything close to the butt-end of this stock. 4) The brass "straps", on the stock below the barrel, seem to be more common with "Persian", or middle-eastern, wunderbluss. Those made in European countries don't seem to have this characteristic. 5) Apparently my uncle had traveled to Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. back in the early 1970's, and my father wonders if uncle had found this gun during his travels back then. This would support #4. 6) I read where there has been a market for "reproduction" wunderbluss in the middle-east for a number of decades. The "guns" are not operational, locals throw them together with whatever materials they have available, then sell them in tourist markets. This would correlate with #4 and #5 above. Anyway, the new pics are attached. Pic 1: Closer view of the hammer/percussion tip. Pic 2: Some engraving on the bottom of the trigger guard. Pic 3: The letters "T" and "O" stamped in the lock plate, below the hammer Pic 4: The "bell" attached at the muzzle Pic 5: Appears to be an ornate "P" also stamped in the lock plate, by the hammer. Pic 6: Possibly an "M" and a "D" engraved on the left end of lock plate. These appear to have been "scrawled" or engraved onto the plate, definitely not as clear, nor similar to, the other markings. If anyone has thoughts or ideas, throw them my way! Thanks in advance ! The investigation continues . . . .. . [/QUOTE]

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