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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pluckem" data-source="post: 41143" data-attributes="member: 843">Your on the right track with LW and Muddy. They are proven. Will hold decent resale value if you decide hauling in an out isn't for you. Pick the size platform (weight) you are willing to haul in.  I hunt using a tree saddle so cant comment first hand on the stands.You will also need a set of sticks.  I own both muddy and LW climbing sticks. Each has there own advantages and disadvantages. The past 3 years I take in 1 Lone Wolf (3 steps) stick and 4 of the muddy sticks (2 steps each).   I use the lone wolf at the base of the tree and then the three muddy's as I go up.I like using the Muddy's as I climb because they have a rope and cleat system, I can throw the rope around the tree without worrying about any metal buckles hitting the stick itself and making noise. The Muddy's also have a step going out each side of the stick. So they feel a bit safer and provide more footing options as you get higher up in the air. I use the LW stick at the base because I can control the noise better with both feet on the ground and two hands available. The LW is also longer in length so it gets you another 1' or so higher than just using 5 Muddy's.I only hunt public land so it is what it is, but it does get frustrating sometimes the amount of effort that has to go into each sit.  Not to big of a deal when you can hunt close to vehicle, but I like getting away from people.  I use a badlands 2200 pack to carry everything. My pack is around 35-40lbs and then a bow in one of the hands. Morning set up in new trees can get interesting as well.As I am sure you have figured out it is not cheap either. Buying everything new you will be $500 into at a minimum for a nice system.</blockquote>

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