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<blockquote data-quote="JayKay" data-source="post: 158427" data-attributes="member: 324">I have a class 2, and will continue to do so.&nbsp; I guess for me, in ND, the point is moot, except I don't have to worry about forgetting my actual license card at home.One thing that I hear around town is people saying &quot;now anybody can carry concealed&quot;.&nbsp; That's simply not true.&nbsp; You have to be legally able to do so.&nbsp; Just like before, in order to get a permit, you had to be deemed &quot;not legally prevented from doing so&quot;.&nbsp; It seems like an obvious point, but when some people are freaking out about this, it's worth bringing up.A felon, or a person with certain items on their record is not legally allowed to carry.&nbsp; Just like they would not have been allowed to receive a CCW.&nbsp; Now, that's not to say that felons don't get or carry or own guns illegally.&nbsp; I guess the old argument remains.&nbsp; How is something more illegal now than it was then?&nbsp; I guess it's all about the repercussions if you get caught.&nbsp; Some say that the fines need to be higher.&nbsp; I don't necessarily agree.&nbsp; If the fine is $5000, and someone can't or won't pay it, then making it $50,000 makes no difference.&nbsp; And before someone says &quot;well, they just need to enforce the laws we have&quot; I'd say, &quot;just look at how the trespassers at NODAPL were allowed to ignore the law.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayKay, post: 158427, member: 324"] I have a class 2, and will continue to do so. I guess for me, in ND, the point is moot, except I don't have to worry about forgetting my actual license card at home. One thing that I hear around town is people saying "now anybody can carry concealed". That's simply not true. You have to be legally able to do so. Just like before, in order to get a permit, you had to be deemed "not legally prevented from doing so". It seems like an obvious point, but when some people are freaking out about this, it's worth bringing up. A felon, or a person with certain items on their record is not legally allowed to carry. Just like they would not have been allowed to receive a CCW. Now, that's not to say that felons don't get or carry or own guns illegally. I guess the old argument remains. How is something more illegal now than it was then? I guess it's all about the repercussions if you get caught. Some say that the fines need to be higher. I don't necessarily agree. If the fine is $5000, and someone can't or won't pay it, then making it $50,000 makes no difference. And before someone says "well, they just need to enforce the laws we have" I'd say, "just look at how the trespassers at NODAPL were allowed to ignore the law. [/QUOTE]

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