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<blockquote data-quote="db-2" data-source="post: 340465" data-attributes="member: 4743">Ma kept everything and i guess i kept a lot.&nbsp; Got my scrapbook from my army days out.Had the scoresheets in there for grenade throwing and shooting the m14 in basic training.Grenade score 45 out of 60 so not the best as the throws were good but the target was not on.&nbsp; Thought with a grenade all one had to be was close.M14 was 61 out of 84.&nbsp; Targets were from 50 to 350 meters shooting in various positions with 5-10 seconds to shoot once target came up.&nbsp; Some spots had 15-20 seconds to shoot.&nbsp; That was enough to be in top range.&nbsp; Never did qualify with the m16 but did shoot at the range and no way could i hit the close targets with that rifle.&nbsp; But had a 20 round clip and full auto, so the game was to get as much out as possible.&nbsp; I do not think over seas i ever did shoot the whole clip out once before in jammed.&nbsp; But i was artillery and not infantry, thank God.&nbsp; But then sometimes with the 175 mm the goal there was also to get shells out quickly.So for me svnmag, the M14 was accurate, never fail, had a great shell, never notice the weight or the recoil and hope to have one by this fall. db- - - Updated - - -Look up on internet.&nbsp; Not sure if one can get a m14 but a m1a.&nbsp; Last time i look they were 11-1200.&nbsp; Now $2000 and some said 1600.&nbsp; I have four rifles i would still like to buy in my life time so maybe this one will need to wait another year.&nbsp; db</blockquote>

[QUOTE="db-2, post: 340465, member: 4743"] Ma kept everything and i guess i kept a lot. Got my scrapbook from my army days out. Had the scoresheets in there for grenade throwing and shooting the m14 in basic training. Grenade score 45 out of 60 so not the best as the throws were good but the target was not on. Thought with a grenade all one had to be was close. M14 was 61 out of 84. Targets were from 50 to 350 meters shooting in various positions with 5-10 seconds to shoot once target came up. Some spots had 15-20 seconds to shoot. That was enough to be in top range. Never did qualify with the m16 but did shoot at the range and no way could i hit the close targets with that rifle. But had a 20 round clip and full auto, so the game was to get as much out as possible. I do not think over seas i ever did shoot the whole clip out once before in jammed. But i was artillery and not infantry, thank God. But then sometimes with the 175 mm the goal there was also to get shells out quickly. So for me svnmag, the M14 was accurate, never fail, had a great shell, never notice the weight or the recoil and hope to have one by this fall. db [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Look up on internet. Not sure if one can get a m14 but a m1a. Last time i look they were 11-1200. Now $2000 and some said 1600. I have four rifles i would still like to buy in my life time so maybe this one will need to wait another year. db [/QUOTE]

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