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<blockquote data-quote="Fritz the Cat" data-source="post: 75832" data-attributes="member: 605">Bob Marshall is an advocate of the Land Water Conservation Fund whereby oil lease money from the Atlantic Outer Continental Shelf is diverted from the US General Fund into the LWCF. The money is used to buy private land and convert it to public land. Bob Marshall wants more federal land. Measure 5 in ND was modeled after the LWCF and wanted to use ND State Oil Extraction tax money to purchase private land. The voters rejected M5 by an 80 to 20 margin.&nbsp;Bob Marshall writes for Field and Stream. The article misses the mark.- - - Updated - - -Davy, you are correct that we all operate with the consent of the public. Including what inner city people think. Let's expand on that. How do inner city feel about rural people and property in America's outback? Oregon is far away so let's pick something closer to home. This is a letter to the editor two days ago in the Trib:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [h=1]Dreaming up future N.D.[/h]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 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Do&nbsp; we want boom and bust cycles such as the speculative cattle ranching in&nbsp; North Dakota’s past? More fracking providing short-term money for a few,&nbsp; and all that comes with it — crime, prostitution, problems with spills,&nbsp; water quality, air pollution, noise, contributing to global warming?Imagine&nbsp; returning to how most people have lived throughout time, and how our&nbsp; ancestors lived — subsistence lifestyles, proud, independent and&nbsp; communal. The thing is, North Dakota is not the places in Europe from&nbsp; which most of our ancestors came. We could do well to consider history,&nbsp; and see what choices made in the past we want to rethink. Buffalo roamed&nbsp; freely on this land and thrived on the open range, while ranching&nbsp; cattle is marginal at best. In what ways are we constrained by the&nbsp; choices our ancestors made? Maybe by telling the stories we can dream up&nbsp; an inspiring future.Imagine buffalo on the open range in western&nbsp; North Dakota, with wildlife corridors to the Black Hills and&nbsp; southeastern Montana, and people employed as guides, safety officers and&nbsp; in administration. A large wildlife area that would also provide&nbsp; habitat for elk, deer, ducks and other game birds. Imagine sharing&nbsp; administration of that land with the Lakota/Nakota/Dakota in the&nbsp; southwestern part of the state.What an opportunity for cultural&nbsp; exchange, and for simply sharing the land. What a context in which to&nbsp; remember the tragedy of the Wounded Knee Massacre, 125 years ago on Dec.&nbsp; 29. Sitting Bull (Buffalo), killed Dec. 15, 1890, would surely smile&nbsp; upon seeing that day. Let us be holy as God is holy. God does not&nbsp; micromanage creation, but rather lets it flourish according to God’s&nbsp; design. Let us likewise enjoy and reap the bounty of God’s creation, and&nbsp; live simply without thought of exploitative gain.Davy, do we shrug it off as musings from a crazy lady in Pennsylvania?Inner city people come out here and see a piece of America they thought was gone. They go home with a desire to save the last best places, prairie, water, forest, wildlife. However, their vision for the last best places has no provision for the last best people. Rural people are not simply disposable.There is our assignment Davy, if we don't tell our story, someone else will. Democracy works, but it is not a spectator sport.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fritz the Cat, post: 75832, member: 605"] Bob Marshall is an advocate of the Land Water Conservation Fund whereby oil lease money from the Atlantic Outer Continental Shelf is diverted from the US General Fund into the LWCF. The money is used to buy private land and convert it to public land. Bob Marshall wants more federal land. Measure 5 in ND was modeled after the LWCF and wanted to use ND State Oil Extraction tax money to purchase private land. The voters rejected M5 by an 80 to 20 margin. Bob Marshall writes for Field and Stream. The article misses the mark. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Davy, you are correct that we all operate with the consent of the public. Including what inner city people think. Let's expand on that. How do inner city feel about rural people and property in America's outback? Oregon is far away so let's pick something closer to home. This is a letter to the editor two days ago in the Trib: [h=1]Dreaming up future N.D.[/h] [URL="http://bismarcktribune.com/news/opinion/mailbag/dreaming-up-future-n-d/article_ad09af0e-45c8-5439-96f5-ffd969eb50b6.html?print=true&cid=print"]Print[/URL] Email January 12, 2016 12:00 am • [URL="http://bismarcktribune.com/search/?l=50&sd=desc&s=start_time&f=html&byline=DEBORAH%20GAUDET%0AState%20College%2C%20Pa."]DEBORAH GAUDET State College, Pa.[/URL] What do we want for North Dakota? Do we want boom and bust cycles such as the speculative cattle ranching in North Dakota’s past? More fracking providing short-term money for a few, and all that comes with it — crime, prostitution, problems with spills, water quality, air pollution, noise, contributing to global warming? Imagine returning to how most people have lived throughout time, and how our ancestors lived — subsistence lifestyles, proud, independent and communal. The thing is, North Dakota is not the places in Europe from which most of our ancestors came. We could do well to consider history, and see what choices made in the past we want to rethink. Buffalo roamed freely on this land and thrived on the open range, while ranching cattle is marginal at best. In what ways are we constrained by the choices our ancestors made? Maybe by telling the stories we can dream up an inspiring future. Imagine buffalo on the open range in western North Dakota, with wildlife corridors to the Black Hills and southeastern Montana, and people employed as guides, safety officers and in administration. A large wildlife area that would also provide habitat for elk, deer, ducks and other game birds. Imagine sharing administration of that land with the Lakota/Nakota/Dakota in the southwestern part of the state. What an opportunity for cultural exchange, and for simply sharing the land. What a context in which to remember the tragedy of the Wounded Knee Massacre, 125 years ago on Dec. 29. Sitting Bull (Buffalo), killed Dec. 15, 1890, would surely smile upon seeing that day. Let us be holy as God is holy. God does not micromanage creation, but rather lets it flourish according to God’s design. Let us likewise enjoy and reap the bounty of God’s creation, and live simply without thought of exploitative gain. Davy, do we shrug it off as musings from a crazy lady in Pennsylvania? Inner city people come out here and see a piece of America they thought was gone. They go home with a desire to save the last best places, prairie, water, forest, wildlife. However, their vision for the last best places has no provision for the last best people. Rural people are not simply disposable. There is our assignment Davy, if we don't tell our story, someone else will. Democracy works, but it is not a spectator sport. [/QUOTE]

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