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<blockquote data-quote="BrockW" data-source="post: 418144" data-attributes="member: 5910"><p>In all serious Dwight, I think what’s most disappointing isn’t even that you lie. A lot of us expect that from you. Heading into the 23 session I heard from multiple folks in Hazen letting me know how you operate. Conspiracy theories and lies, that’s your reputation. Honestly, In some ways I feel sorry for you.</p><p></p><p>But I think it’s more the idea that you are so desperate to get some sort of victory, that you will drag in separate issues instead of staying on topic and making a coherent argument. If someone actually makes a better argument than you, catches you speaking out of both sides of your mouth, twisting truths, or just perpetuating BS you resort to personal attacks. It’s like you get some sort of pleasure out of it.</p><p></p><p>No, I never rammed into you, that’s an utterly ridiculous accusation. I’m half your age and probably have 50 lbs on you, what benefit would there be for me to do such a thing to an old man in front of the ENR committee, GF staff or other conservation groups? That is beyond absurd.</p><p></p><p>And FWIW Arman never “called me out” for embellishing. He threatened to sue me for telling the truth, a truth that I could and still can prove 100%. But I'm not concerned with proving a point on that issue, I’d prefer to focus on more important things, like the subject matter itself. But you’re right, that’s between him and I, and you have no involvement in that. And I’d like to think that him and I have moved past that, despite disagreement between us. But what kind of man are you to bring that up? </p><p></p><p>What I’ve stated regarding my wife is that for about a month she was afraid to answer a knock at the door because of threats I was receiving from people associated with that FB page, some of whom I presume are buddies of yours. You seem to bring this up as some sort of “gotcha”, but frankly, I think it reveals some sort of pathological and sociopathic thinking. It’s pathetic that you think that somehow notches you a point in this conversation.</p><p></p><p>I can tell you with 100% certainty that I have never once, not a single time through this issue, threatened anyone, brought their wife or kids into it, spread lies about anyone, or personally attacked anyone. I call BS when I see it and pursue the facts, that has quite obviously lead to some hurt feelings from you and those on your side of the issue. But I trust you’ll manage. I recommend you start acting your age. I appreciate a good debate on an issue, and am happy to talk wildlife and hunting with pretty much anyone. I can disagree and still hold a conversation. But what you’re doing here is trying to pull this conversation into the shitter, and I think you can do better. Man up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrockW, post: 418144, member: 5910"] In all serious Dwight, I think what’s most disappointing isn’t even that you lie. A lot of us expect that from you. Heading into the 23 session I heard from multiple folks in Hazen letting me know how you operate. Conspiracy theories and lies, that’s your reputation. Honestly, In some ways I feel sorry for you. But I think it’s more the idea that you are so desperate to get some sort of victory, that you will drag in separate issues instead of staying on topic and making a coherent argument. If someone actually makes a better argument than you, catches you speaking out of both sides of your mouth, twisting truths, or just perpetuating BS you resort to personal attacks. It’s like you get some sort of pleasure out of it. No, I never rammed into you, that’s an utterly ridiculous accusation. I’m half your age and probably have 50 lbs on you, what benefit would there be for me to do such a thing to an old man in front of the ENR committee, GF staff or other conservation groups? That is beyond absurd. And FWIW Arman never “called me out” for embellishing. He threatened to sue me for telling the truth, a truth that I could and still can prove 100%. But I'm not concerned with proving a point on that issue, I’d prefer to focus on more important things, like the subject matter itself. But you’re right, that’s between him and I, and you have no involvement in that. And I’d like to think that him and I have moved past that, despite disagreement between us. But what kind of man are you to bring that up? What I’ve stated regarding my wife is that for about a month she was afraid to answer a knock at the door because of threats I was receiving from people associated with that FB page, some of whom I presume are buddies of yours. You seem to bring this up as some sort of “gotcha”, but frankly, I think it reveals some sort of pathological and sociopathic thinking. It’s pathetic that you think that somehow notches you a point in this conversation. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I have never once, not a single time through this issue, threatened anyone, brought their wife or kids into it, spread lies about anyone, or personally attacked anyone. I call BS when I see it and pursue the facts, that has quite obviously lead to some hurt feelings from you and those on your side of the issue. But I trust you’ll manage. I recommend you start acting your age. I appreciate a good debate on an issue, and am happy to talk wildlife and hunting with pretty much anyone. I can disagree and still hold a conversation. But what you’re doing here is trying to pull this conversation into the shitter, and I think you can do better. Man up. [/QUOTE]
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