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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fly Carpin" data-source="post: 107351" data-attributes="member: 1187">The Center for Biological Diversity makes their money by petitioning the FWS to list species and critical habitat, and then suing them when they either don't list or try to delist. They are absolutely bastardizing the original intent of the act, which was to bring numbers back up, delist, move on. They are not scientists. they are not conservationists. They are greasy ambulance chasers. The problem is that if they have "substantial" scientific or commercial evidence for why a species should be listed, the feds don't have a choice. They have to do a year-long status review of the species. In 2006 they petitioned to have the leopard frog listed in 18 western states, including North Dakota. The feds had to consider it. In 2011 they determined it did not warrant listing. Think about that. Someone woke up, went to work, and tried to determine if leopard frogs should be afforded protection under ESA in North Dakota. For 5 years. Because they were legally bound to do so. So what will they find at the end of their year-long "rigorous" study of moose? Brainworm, winter ticks, heat stress, liver flukes, and wolves are all working together to drive down moose numbers in traditional moose habitat. Moose in ND are moving into the prairies and flourishing. But how to combat the climate related decline? Anyone who thinks they can use the ESA to regulate greenhouse gas emissions is a fool. Sorry for the rant. Anything involving the Center for Biological Diversity sends me into a rage. They give real wildlife professionals a bad name. I'm going fishing. Later buds</blockquote>

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