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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 107352" data-attributes="member: 373"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Some on here have been warning groups like this with their agendas do not have the interests of sportsmen or hunting at heart. Sorry, no pictures.</p><p></p><p><em>"<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Listing the moose under the act would <strong>make it illegal to hunt them</strong> and could produce habitat protections and federally funded research on their plight."</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>I typed in the Center for Biological Diversity to get to their site to find a story about some of the BS that fly carpin was speaking of and this was at the top of their home page. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/protect_public_lands/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/protect_public_lands/index.html</a></p><p></p><p>Seems like maybe someone is taking notes from them here on a few outdoor sites.............<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Anyways here is a bit more info about them. Note the "foundation" revenue sources. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.undueinfluence.com/Center_for_Biological_Diversity.htm" target="_blank">http://www.undueinfluence.com/Center_for_Biological_Diversity.htm</a></p><p></p><p>"<strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Self-description: </span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000000">As the country's leading endangered species advocates, the Center for Biological Diversity works through science, law, and creative media to secure a future for all species, great or small, hovering on the brink of extinction.</span></span></span><strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Actual:</span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> Anti-industry legal attack group uses the Endangered Species Act and media scare tactics as a weapon to destroy America's industrial strength and resource production by bringing lawsuits against a wide spectrum of resource use companies, private property owners and against government to stop resource use. T</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">he Center for Biological Diversity l</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">ost a 2005 defamation lawsuit to fifth-generation rancher Jim Chilton of Arivaca, Arizona, when a jury awarded him $600,000, including $500,000 in punitive damages for falsely accusing him of damaging the range. The Center appealed the decision to the Arizona State Supreme Court and lost again in 2007.</span></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>In the following link, note the mention of securing <strong>'critical habitat.</strong>' Once a designation has been made lands are "critical habitat" even if they are YOUR private lands, the Federal govt USF&WS now has control over what you can or can not do on them.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.hcn.org/issues/41.22/firebrand-ways" target="_blank">http://www.hcn.org/issues/41.22/firebrand-ways</a></p><p></p><p>"<em>Twenty years ago, they were Earth Firsters, living in tepees, trying to save spotted owls and grafting together a shoestring budget from their unemployment checks. Today, the Center for Biological Diversity has a budget of $7 million, 62 full-time staffers and 15 offices nationally, in locations from Washington, D.C., to Silver City, N.M. <strong>By filing 600 lawsuits and countless petitions against the federal government,</strong> the center has won the listing of 380 species as threatened or endangered. It also says it <strong>has secured 110 million acres of critical habitat and proposed another 130 million acres.</strong> <strong>CBD has won a reputation as the country's <u>most militant large environmental group</u>,</strong> one that seldom shrinks from controversy."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Yet a few ranchers are labeled "domestic terrorists"................</p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p>A bit on "critical habitat"</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/new-critical-habitat-regulations-56779" target="_blank">http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/new-critical-habitat-regulations-56779</a></p><p></p><p>"<span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'">On February 11, 2016, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Marine Fisheries Service jointly published final regulations and a final policy addressing critical habitat under the Endangered Species Act. The final rules and policy will broadly impact all aspects of ESA implementation, including jeopardy findings and the <strong>development of species conservation plans</strong><span style="font-size: 12px">. <strong>Ultimately, private activities will be subject to increased scrutiny by federal agencies, and obtaining permits and other approvals will be more costly and time-consuming.</strong></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'Open Sans'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Impacts of the final rules and policy are likely to include the follow</span>ing:</span></strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Critical habitat designations are likely to be more frequent, more robust, and broader in geographic scope, including areas that listed species may have periodically used in the past or may potentially use in the future</strong>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An increase in critical habitat designations means an increased likelihood that development activities will occur in or near designated critical habitat—<strong>and therefore be subject to ESA restrictions.</strong></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The expanded definition of “destruction or adverse modification” of critical habitat includes not only the alteration of the physical or biological features essential to the conservation of a species, but also alterations that delay the development of those features, even if the features do not yet exist in the area designated as critical habitat. <strong>Consequently, activities occurring in designated areas are more susceptible to a finding of destruction or adverse modification of critical habitat, which may trigger severe ESA restrictions."</strong></li> </ul><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>Here in ND as a result of a ;lawsuit filed by the Center for Biological diversity there were meetings held to share the forced listing of two butterfly species as endangered. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/prairie-butterflies-10-23-2014.html" target="_blank">http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/prairie-butterflies-10-23-2014.html</a></p><p></p><p><em><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">“It’s great news that these remarkable little butterflies now have the Endangered Species Act protection that will save them and their beautiful prairie homes,” said Tierra Curry, a senior scientist at the Center.</span></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Lands here in ND were to be listed as "critical habitat". Grazing was still going to be allowed on these PRIVATE lands, but if it was documented that your cattle were the cause of a "taking" of one of these butterflies you could be fined and possibly imprisoned.</p><p></p><p><strong>Oh those lawsuits they file, tax payers pay for them. Funny how some here never mention these groups having their "hands ion the tax payers pockets". </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><a href="http://www.pinedaleonline.com/news/2009/09/Environmentallitigat.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pinedaleonline.com/news/2009/09/Environmentallitigat.htm</a></p><p></p><p>"<span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">• Between 2000 and 2009, Center for Biological Diversity ("CBD") filed at least 409 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 165 appeals in the federal appellate courts. "</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>"</strong></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong>On the other end, these same environmental groups are receiving billions of federal tax payer dollars in attorney fees for settling or "winning" cases against the federal government.</strong> Accurate statistics have not been kept by the Justice Department or the federal agencies, thus there is no accounting for the total amount of tax dollars paid, however, we were able to uncover these facts: </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There are two major sources for attorney fees that can be paid to plaintiffs that "prevail" in litigation either by winning a case on the merits or by the Justice Department agreeing that the group "prevailed" in a settlement by achieving the purpose of the litigation. One source of funding is called the "Judgment Fund." The Judgment Fund is a Congressional line-item appropriation and is used for Endangered Species Act cases, Clean Water Act cases, and with other statutes that directly allow a plaintiff to recover attorney fees. There is no central data base for tracking the payment of these fees, thus neither the taxpayers, members of Congress nor the federal government knows the total amount of taxpayer dollars spent from the Judgment Fund on individual cases. The only information regarding these fees that is available is: " </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 107352, member: 373"] :) Some on here have been warning groups like this with their agendas do not have the interests of sportsmen or hunting at heart. Sorry, no pictures. [I]"[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman]Listing the moose under the act would [B]make it illegal to hunt them[/B] and could produce habitat protections and federally funded research on their plight."[/FONT][/COLOR] [/I] I typed in the Center for Biological Diversity to get to their site to find a story about some of the BS that fly carpin was speaking of and this was at the top of their home page. [URL]http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/protect_public_lands/index.html[/URL] Seems like maybe someone is taking notes from them here on a few outdoor sites.............;) Anyways here is a bit more info about them. Note the "foundation" revenue sources. [URL]http://www.undueinfluence.com/Center_for_Biological_Diversity.htm[/URL] "[B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Self-description: [/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]As the country's leading endangered species advocates, the Center for Biological Diversity works through science, law, and creative media to secure a future for all species, great or small, hovering on the brink of extinction.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][B][B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Actual:[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] Anti-industry legal attack group uses the Endangered Species Act and media scare tactics as a weapon to destroy America's industrial strength and resource production by bringing lawsuits against a wide spectrum of resource use companies, private property owners and against government to stop resource use. T[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]he Center for Biological Diversity l[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]ost a 2005 defamation lawsuit to fifth-generation rancher Jim Chilton of Arivaca, Arizona, when a jury awarded him $600,000, including $500,000 in punitive damages for falsely accusing him of damaging the range. The Center appealed the decision to the Arizona State Supreme Court and lost again in 2007.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/B] In the following link, note the mention of securing [B]'critical habitat.[/B]' Once a designation has been made lands are "critical habitat" even if they are YOUR private lands, the Federal govt USF&WS now has control over what you can or can not do on them. [URL]http://www.hcn.org/issues/41.22/firebrand-ways[/URL] "[I]Twenty years ago, they were Earth Firsters, living in tepees, trying to save spotted owls and grafting together a shoestring budget from their unemployment checks. Today, the Center for Biological Diversity has a budget of $7 million, 62 full-time staffers and 15 offices nationally, in locations from Washington, D.C., to Silver City, N.M. [B]By filing 600 lawsuits and countless petitions against the federal government,[/B] the center has won the listing of 380 species as threatened or endangered. It also says it [B]has secured 110 million acres of critical habitat and proposed another 130 million acres.[/B] [B]CBD has won a reputation as the country's [U]most militant large environmental group[/U],[/B] one that seldom shrinks from controversy." [/I] Yet a few ranchers are labeled "domestic terrorists"................ [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] A bit on "critical habitat" [URL]http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/new-critical-habitat-regulations-56779[/URL] "[FONT=Open Sans]On February 11, 2016, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Marine Fisheries Service jointly published final regulations and a final policy addressing critical habitat under the Endangered Species Act. The final rules and policy will broadly impact all aspects of ESA implementation, including jeopardy findings and the [B]development of species conservation plans[/B][SIZE=3]. [B]Ultimately, private activities will be subject to increased scrutiny by federal agencies, and obtaining permits and other approvals will be more costly and time-consuming.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Open Sans][SIZE=3]Impacts of the final rules and policy are likely to include the follow[/SIZE]ing:[/FONT][/B] [LIST] [*][B]Critical habitat designations are likely to be more frequent, more robust, and broader in geographic scope, including areas that listed species may have periodically used in the past or may potentially use in the future[/B]. [*]An increase in critical habitat designations means an increased likelihood that development activities will occur in or near designated critical habitat—[B]and therefore be subject to ESA restrictions.[/B] [*]The expanded definition of “destruction or adverse modification” of critical habitat includes not only the alteration of the physical or biological features essential to the conservation of a species, but also alterations that delay the development of those features, even if the features do not yet exist in the area designated as critical habitat. [B]Consequently, activities occurring in designated areas are more susceptible to a finding of destruction or adverse modification of critical habitat, which may trigger severe ESA restrictions."[/B] [/LIST] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Here in ND as a result of a ;lawsuit filed by the Center for Biological diversity there were meetings held to share the forced listing of two butterfly species as endangered. [URL]http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2014/prairie-butterflies-10-23-2014.html[/URL] [I][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]“It’s great news that these remarkable little butterflies now have the Endangered Species Act protection that will save them and their beautiful prairie homes,” said Tierra Curry, a senior scientist at the Center.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/I] Lands here in ND were to be listed as "critical habitat". Grazing was still going to be allowed on these PRIVATE lands, but if it was documented that your cattle were the cause of a "taking" of one of these butterflies you could be fined and possibly imprisoned. [B]Oh those lawsuits they file, tax payers pay for them. Funny how some here never mention these groups having their "hands ion the tax payers pockets". [/B] [URL]http://www.pinedaleonline.com/news/2009/09/Environmentallitigat.htm[/URL] "[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]• Between 2000 and 2009, Center for Biological Diversity ("CBD") filed at least 409 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 165 appeals in the federal appellate courts. " [B]"[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana][B]On the other end, these same environmental groups are receiving billions of federal tax payer dollars in attorney fees for settling or "winning" cases against the federal government.[/B] Accurate statistics have not been kept by the Justice Department or the federal agencies, thus there is no accounting for the total amount of tax dollars paid, however, we were able to uncover these facts: [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]There are two major sources for attorney fees that can be paid to plaintiffs that "prevail" in litigation either by winning a case on the merits or by the Justice Department agreeing that the group "prevailed" in a settlement by achieving the purpose of the litigation. One source of funding is called the "Judgment Fund." The Judgment Fund is a Congressional line-item appropriation and is used for Endangered Species Act cases, Clean Water Act cases, and with other statutes that directly allow a plaintiff to recover attorney fees. There is no central data base for tracking the payment of these fees, thus neither the taxpayers, members of Congress nor the federal government knows the total amount of taxpayer dollars spent from the Judgment Fund on individual cases. The only information regarding these fees that is available is: " [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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