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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 84064" data-attributes="member: 373">Ghost my "Given" of that butterfly species not being documented in the area around Towner, one of which this lady said would fall under govt oversight had not had a documented sighting of either species in over a decade. I was merely repeating what the "expert" they had speaking to us had shared. 1. Given they fact they admitted that these butterflies had not been  documented here in ND for at least a decade, what negative effects could  she share happening because of their removal from the ecosystem?Perhaps if she had her facts wrong.........2. How do we know that given the hundreds of thousands if not millions  of species that went extinct before mankind's existance and impact on  this planet(if that is what you believe) how do we know keeping these  two butterflies from going extinct is not messing with natures natural  progression?Indeed it was man (a species ) impacting the native prairies which in turn impacted these butterflies, no one is disputing that. The question is, how do you know that is not the natural evolution of our species to continue to feed our species to continue to expand our population until we reach a point where our population is no longer sustainable and natural evolution impacts mankind? My point you seem to miss is that if one wishes to embrace the science of evolution, as these biologists and scientist most often do,  you can not pick and choose what you wish to embrace to suit an agenda, and you must acknowledge that man is just another species evolving to suit their needs. Now if you wish to argue man kinds evolution has allowed us to think and reason to make choices on how we impact other species and so THAT is a part of the evolutionary process that allows us to decide if our actions are natural or unatural in how they impact other species we can certainly have that discussion. But my question as I said was not meant to be that in depth, only to give pause to the necessity to understand how the regulations this govt agency wants to put in place to "save" this one butterfly they told us had not been in the area I spoke of for over a decade may actually impact the species of mankind as well. Don;t read too much into it.</blockquote>

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