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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 176859" data-attributes="member: 373">I don;t despise the federal govt when it operates within our Constitution. As to hypocrisy, you and other consumers are the ultimate recipient of these "hand outs" and you gladly take them every time you go to the grocery store. And yet you never once mention that. THAT is the simple truth without any "spin". But hey I like how you think sharing a bit of education on the Constitution and it's requirement regarding a taking is "spin"...........spoken like a good liberal.- - - Updated - - -Plains please educate yourself before making accusations and claims. You are using a tried and true liberal method of making inflamatory claims to stir up support even if they are not true.- - - Updated - - -The problem arises when like a typical govt program a loophole is found to exploit the program. Over and over again in virtually every aspect of govt at the Federal level,  the programs and management they design allows for fraud and abuse and manipulation. And that is why someone like myself has a hard time with people wanting more and more govt control at the Federal level on anything including public lands. I have asked before for  folks ot provide examples of programs and depts ran by the Federal govt that are run more efficiently and productively when compared to private or even state programs. Anyone want to share some?- - - Updated - - -Plainsmans version. the actual truth. "The delegation requested Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and Attorney General Jeff Sessions work with North Dakota and the affected counties to find a “mutually acceptable settlement.”"</blockquote>

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