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<blockquote data-quote="Marbleyes" data-source="post: 176876" data-attributes="member: 675"><p>I'm not against the subsidies for farmers but to suggest that consumers get a loaf of bread for a buck or two isn't exactly accurate since our tax dollars pay for those subsidies in the first place. Sure we get it for that at the store but we already paid for the subsidies before that loaf hits the shelf. If we didn't have subsidies for farmers the price swings would be wildly inconsistent and unpredictable for our food. Some years a loaf of bread would cost a crazy amount because of supply and demand. On top of that, without subsidies most farmers would go out of business since it would just take a bad year or two of weather etc. to completely wipe them out. Corporate farms would then take over. No thanks. You think it's hard to find a place to hunt now? Imagine if farmers/ranchers had to sell their land to corporations, you could kiss hunting good bye. It wouldn't take long for the second amendment to be a distant memory either. I realize the second isn't about hunting but the money hunters spend/donate to pro second amendment organizations to protect our rights would dwindle down to almost nothing. That's just the way I see it. Unintended consequences. And no, I'm not a farmer.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Marbleyes, post: 176876, member: 675"] I'm not against the subsidies for farmers but to suggest that consumers get a loaf of bread for a buck or two isn't exactly accurate since our tax dollars pay for those subsidies in the first place. Sure we get it for that at the store but we already paid for the subsidies before that loaf hits the shelf. If we didn't have subsidies for farmers the price swings would be wildly inconsistent and unpredictable for our food. Some years a loaf of bread would cost a crazy amount because of supply and demand. On top of that, without subsidies most farmers would go out of business since it would just take a bad year or two of weather etc. to completely wipe them out. Corporate farms would then take over. No thanks. You think it's hard to find a place to hunt now? Imagine if farmers/ranchers had to sell their land to corporations, you could kiss hunting good bye. It wouldn't take long for the second amendment to be a distant memory either. I realize the second isn't about hunting but the money hunters spend/donate to pro second amendment organizations to protect our rights would dwindle down to almost nothing. That's just the way I see it. Unintended consequences. And no, I'm not a farmer. [/QUOTE]

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