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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 176877" data-attributes="member: 373">Marble, a few years back Plainsman was spouting off so I did the math for him. The ROI on the less than one penny of a tax dollar that actually goes to farm programs has a substantial return on it in food cost savings over most any other nation. If I could get a return like that on my investments I wouldn;t have to farm any more. Subsidy and insurance payments have done nothing but drive up costs in agriculture. Suppliers know what the average acre payment is for crop ins and their costs are adjusted accordingly going up....not so much coming down. Guys that have figured out the program deal are able to pay more for cash rent which drives it up for everyone. Anyone that thinks these subsidies stay in&nbsp; the farmers pocket or get buried in a jar on the north 40 is fooling them selves. So then who really gets these ag subsidies? When I ask that no one ever answers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gst, post: 176877, member: 373"] Marble, a few years back Plainsman was spouting off so I did the math for him. The ROI on the less than one penny of a tax dollar that actually goes to farm programs has a substantial return on it in food cost savings over most any other nation. If I could get a return like that on my investments I wouldn;t have to farm any more. Subsidy and insurance payments have done nothing but drive up costs in agriculture. Suppliers know what the average acre payment is for crop ins and their costs are adjusted accordingly going up....not so much coming down. Guys that have figured out the program deal are able to pay more for cash rent which drives it up for everyone. Anyone that thinks these subsidies stay in the farmers pocket or get buried in a jar on the north 40 is fooling them selves. So then who really gets these ag subsidies? When I ask that no one ever answers. [/QUOTE]

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