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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 177071" data-attributes="member: 373">Allen, there is a difference between over grazing and responsible grazing. As you may have read the range scientist you mention Kevin Sedevec who is very sharp was called upon by ranchers to speak to grazing height requirements that those people in the USFS like plains hat wanted to limit grazing significantly tried to implement a few years back Kevin Sedevec pointed out that the stubble height requirements after grazing that were being proposed were actually taller than what some of the species of native grasses grew to......meaning to be in compliance these cattle would have ot be removed before they even got started grazing. the link to a story on it is below. Remember on these public lands the rancher who leases (often times long term 10 years) them is often times responsible for water and fencing. I'm sure their intent is to damage those grazing lands for the entire duration of their lease....................Come on allen, one plainsman making these kinds of accusations on here is plenty. You guys do know they do make cuts to grazing numbers in drought years right? Read the article..you will find both the rancher (I know Keith good cattleman and range manager) and the USFS gal says the range is in good condition. <a href="http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/grazing-association-forest-service-at-odds-over-pasture-plan/article_dd341b8a-3a09-11e0-aa79-001cc4c03286.html" target="_blank">http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/grazing-association-forest-service-at-odds-over-pasture-plan/article_dd341b8a-3a09-11e0-aa79-001cc4c03286.html</a>Hey Allen perhaps it is not these ranchers making long term impacts o the Grasslands........<a href="http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/patrols-aim-to-reduce-grassland-destruction/article_70d83e09-725a-5aea-b307-821814c15c8a.html" target="_blank">http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/patrols-aim-to-reduce-grassland-destruction/article_70d83e09-725a-5aea-b307-821814c15c8a.html</a>- - - Updated - - -Got thinkin running the baler......given that I have never posted a pic on here or any other outdoor site and given the claims you made i that PM you sent me.........you must have been doing a in depth job of creepin. You would have had to dig pretty deep given the reference you made in the PM. Deeper than checkin out somebody on FB..........</blockquote>

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