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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 177083" data-attributes="member: 373">Somebody show this to plains pleeeaaaase. <a href="https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3818907.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...prd3818907.pdf</a>- - - Updated - - -3-30 3. Maintain disturbance processes(fire, grazing) if required for habitatenhancement, restoration or speciesviability.- - - Updated - - -Actually it depends on the timing of each john. A grass plant root growth will mimic its growth above ground. So if a fire from enough ungrazed residue left on these lands burns young grass plants hot enough early in the season it will do more damage than if a mature grass plant is grazed hard in the fall after it is mature. Completely grazing off residue height on mature plants in northern climes will impact snow retention and moisture early in spring months impacting plant health as well. But then yof course you hve that is a fire burns grasses off late as well. If it is continually grazed short with no rest or recover period it is the most damaging. The problem is these Federal lands, that intensive grazing does not fit the agendas of those that file the law suits and it is tough to do on leased ground with rough terrain like many of the public lands. However some ideologies can be incorporated  there are studies where mob grazing mimicing the natural action of the buffalo in grazing these lands down hard in a once over system where hoof action and urine and manure are all beneficail have proven themselves to restore grazing lands. The ground may appear "over grazed" ot the uneducated or biased eye yet the hoof action actually tramples more plant matter into the ground than is consumed building organic matter. fire can scarify seeds promoting germination, but without hoof action to grind those seeds into the ground they often lay on the surface for years. Plaisman should like this one....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><a href="http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/mob-hit-grazing-cattle-to-boost-whitetail-deer-numbers/article_3f2ca5f9-c86c-5604-a065-ebd3abaee741.html" target="_blank">http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/mob-hit-grazing-cattle-to-boost-whitetail-deer-numbers/article_3f2ca5f9-c86c-5604-a065-ebd3abaee741.html</a></blockquote>

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