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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 177123" data-attributes="member: 373"><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=174042#p1052306" target="_blank">Re: Deer rifle license are out</a><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1052306#p1052306" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>by <a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=995" target="_blank">Plainsman</a> » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:19 amMost of the places I used to hunt don't want any more outside hunters (even for small game) for fear they will spook or scare THEIR bucks away.I feel sorry for the next generation. I don't have an optimistic view of hunting in the future. I think the biggest threat is pay hunting. Once that starts you will only hunt if you own land or are rich. Unfortunately the anti hunters will love it. Politicians respond to votes and it will take little time until we are outnumbered. We are in a fire danger right now, but many years when we are not a handful of ranchers out west will try stop hunting using the excuse of fire danger. In Montana a road that the Forest Service maintained for over a hundred years has been cut off because it passes through a couple sections of a ranch and that rancher started an outfitter business. He has affectively cut hunters off thousands of acres of public land. Then also ranchers pushed for a new law against corner hoping in Montana. Where land looks like a checkerboard (lets say private is red and public is black) you can't step from the corner of one black section to the corner of another black section even if your feet don't touch red. They say part of your body passes over their property. I debate on another site where a man defends that, but says ranchers and hunters need to work together. What a hypocrite. Most of us want to work together, but they work against us behind their back. Of course it's someone else's fault a bill like this passes. They blame it on the politicians. Are we really so stupid we don't know who is behind the bill? We hunters are between a rock (anti hunters) and a hard place (land owners). I wish the land owners were smart enough to know hunters support them now, and if they destroy hunting they loose support.;:;banghead- - - Updated - - -<a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=174042#p1052354" target="_blank">Re: Deer rifle license are out</a><a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1052354#p1052354" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>by <a href="http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=995" target="_blank">Plainsman</a> » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:45 amI suspect its not only to keep hunter out but is an effort by ranchers to pressure the government to sell those parcels because they want them.That's part of it. Many of them support the American Land Council. Sounds good, but it's just the same old Sagebrush Rebellion. They deny this of course. The armed protest in Oregon was just a group of dung pushing to steal public land. Some old ranchers were paid much more than their land was worth for the area that is now Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Now they want it back. Just like the crap along the Missouri here in North Dakota. One guy south of Bismarck, I think he is on the legislature, is pushing hard for it because he wants much of the public area south of Bismarck back. Nothing less than common thieves, but they don't go to prison. Well the Oregon idiots may.  Your pastor should have given you an article on bearing false witness before you got on your church council plains............</blockquote>

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