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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BrockW" data-source="post: 431028" data-attributes="member: 5910">Certainly not as bad as some on the left thought he was going to be.Your first link, opening refuges, is something Biden did too. Hell, I think even Obama did that. So to me, that’s kind of a wash.Rolling back roadless protections in the Tongass NF is one of the more significant ones that comes to mind. He did it in the name of forest fire protection iirc. But that’s a legitimate rainforest and has seen something like less than a couple hundred acres of fires in the relevant past. If memory serves the timber sale would’ve went to a company who sells all their lumber to china. So there was multiple things I didn’t like about that. ANWR was another I wasn’t a fan of.I’m a little more in the middle when it comes to Bears Ears-Escalante. It was already federal land, so it wasn’t a loss and I don’t usually agree with trying to use National Monument status as a quasi wilderness or non motorized designation either. There was a group that wanted to do that in ND for areas that are Suitable for Wilderness and our chapter refused to support or participate. Our stance is you either do it legitimately and follow the process, or you don’t do it at all.[ATTACH=full]71575[/ATTACH]In some sense the Democrats were pushing solar on public lands harder. Which in my opinion can be worse than oil and gas. Though, it just kind of depends on the specific area and how you apply your metrics. In my opinion nuclear is the only real answer. So it seems like even more of a crime to let wind and solar eat up habitat and access.Overall, I don’t necessary disagree with you that “it wasn’t that bad”. Most of the significant attacks on public lands are coming from states, like the subject of the OP. So, maybe it’s important to consider scope and scale. But keep in mind, the states become embolden to do such things when their party is in power. So some of the concerns are because of indirect influence.It’s certainly possible that the fact that I’m an independent who really has a distaste for the current 2 parties, and who’s most important issue is hunting and fishing and public lands, is making me a hard person to make happy in this scenario.</blockquote>

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