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<blockquote data-quote="( deleted account )" data-source="post: 222467" data-attributes="member: 5993">Spring crowing counts by pretty well the same observers over the same roads and similar dates ( mailmen, g and F people, etc) is about the only practical way of assessing how many make it thru winter.&nbsp; Obviously can’t count hens sitting on eggs in heavy cover, or chicks in long grass!&nbsp;&nbsp; Eggs being incubated by hens mostly in June, though there are early and late nesting and renesting,so should be seeing clutches pretty soon.&nbsp; Obviously not an exact science, though I’m sure the G and after would love suggestions from any armchair biologists to make it better and more accurate.What is more important is the weather around hatching time, not too hot or too cold or too wet or dry, lots of grasshoppers, etc.&nbsp; a few hens can produce a lot of birds for us come fall, if conditions and habitat are right!&nbsp; All the hens in the world can produce few fall birds if weather is wrong and little or no habitat!&nbsp; Spring crow counts are only a small slice of the pheasant pizza.&nbsp; Off topic, but I wish we had some kind of public funded CRP lookalike!&nbsp;&nbsp; Orgs like pheasants forever do a lot but I’ve been impressed that a lot of their donated money though spent locally, tends to go into private property off limits to most hunters. Not criticizingPF, just wish there was a better way to spread pheasant producing money out a little better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="( deleted account ), post: 222467, member: 5993"] Spring crowing counts by pretty well the same observers over the same roads and similar dates ( mailmen, g and F people, etc) is about the only practical way of assessing how many make it thru winter. Obviously can’t count hens sitting on eggs in heavy cover, or chicks in long grass! Eggs being incubated by hens mostly in June, though there are early and late nesting and renesting,so should be seeing clutches pretty soon. Obviously not an exact science, though I’m sure the G and after would love suggestions from any armchair biologists to make it better and more accurate. What is more important is the weather around hatching time, not too hot or too cold or too wet or dry, lots of grasshoppers, etc. a few hens can produce a lot of birds for us come fall, if conditions and habitat are right! All the hens in the world can produce few fall birds if weather is wrong and little or no habitat! Spring crow counts are only a small slice of the pheasant pizza. Off topic, but I wish we had some kind of public funded CRP lookalike! Orgs like pheasants forever do a lot but I’ve been impressed that a lot of their donated money though spent locally, tends to go into private property off limits to most hunters. Not criticizingPF, just wish there was a better way to spread pheasant producing money out a little better. [/QUOTE]

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