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<blockquote data-quote="SDMF" data-source="post: 307028" data-attributes="member: 412">Remington has been tone deaf regarding rimfires in general since they discontinued the 541 IMO.&nbsp; Remington also routinely made exceptionally poor commercial launches of new cartridges/chamberings.&nbsp; They've also been painfully slow to acknowledge when others have been successful.The 1:12 twist 244/6MM.&nbsp; They used a case that didn't fit well into their short action and then twisted it such that most folks would only use it for a varmint rifle.&nbsp; There weren't really any &quot;stout&quot; projectiles under 85gn for the 6mm in the 1950's.The 7MM Rem Express.&nbsp; Americans traditionally don't adopt the cartridges named in &quot;mm's&quot;, the 7MM Rem mag being the one glaring example to the contrary.&nbsp; They should've called it the .280Rem from the get-go and they should've forgone any semiautomatic version in order to load it to the same 63-64K PSI that Winchester was loading the .270 to.The 8MM Rem Mag should've been &quot;The&quot; elk cartridge every elk hunter aspired to obtain.&nbsp; However, Rem loaded the factory ammo with dogshit projectiles that were far too fragile for the velocity they obtained.&nbsp; A 200-225gn Partition in factory ammo would've cemented the 8MM as &quot;Elk King&quot;. As offered, even Boddington couldn't get that job done despite nearly 2 decades of trying.Remington had Carbon-fiber wrapped bbls on factory rifles in the late-90's.&nbsp; They didn't know where to niche them or how to explain whey they believed the benefits were, so they threw a few options out on the market and it flopped.Etronx, everybody and their brother just knew that those electronic primers would someday be impossible to find.I like the M 700 rifle.&nbsp; The marketing and post-launch support from Big Green however has been very poor at best.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SDMF, post: 307028, member: 412"] Remington has been tone deaf regarding rimfires in general since they discontinued the 541 IMO. Remington also routinely made exceptionally poor commercial launches of new cartridges/chamberings. They've also been painfully slow to acknowledge when others have been successful. The 1:12 twist 244/6MM. They used a case that didn't fit well into their short action and then twisted it such that most folks would only use it for a varmint rifle. There weren't really any "stout" projectiles under 85gn for the 6mm in the 1950's. The 7MM Rem Express. Americans traditionally don't adopt the cartridges named in "mm's", the 7MM Rem mag being the one glaring example to the contrary. They should've called it the .280Rem from the get-go and they should've forgone any semiautomatic version in order to load it to the same 63-64K PSI that Winchester was loading the .270 to. The 8MM Rem Mag should've been "The" elk cartridge every elk hunter aspired to obtain. However, Rem loaded the factory ammo with dogshit projectiles that were far too fragile for the velocity they obtained. A 200-225gn Partition in factory ammo would've cemented the 8MM as "Elk King". As offered, even Boddington couldn't get that job done despite nearly 2 decades of trying. Remington had Carbon-fiber wrapped bbls on factory rifles in the late-90's. They didn't know where to niche them or how to explain whey they believed the benefits were, so they threw a few options out on the market and it flopped. Etronx, everybody and their brother just knew that those electronic primers would someday be impossible to find. I like the M 700 rifle. The marketing and post-launch support from Big Green however has been very poor at best. [/QUOTE]

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