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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deleted member" data-source="post: 83410" data-attributes="member: 816">LOL.  holy shit!  are you fucking kidding me?  hello mr. pot. :;:howdy i'm mr. kettle.  no need to tell me i'm black.  btw, have you looked in the mirror lately?  anytime somebody says anything that you remotely disagree with, you have a 1000 word response and turn these threads into a veritable shitshow of whining.  anyway... on the subject at hand.  there are certainly a couple sides to this.  and even GST has valid points related to landowner hardships and deer.  they definitely deserve their chance at a gratis.  but, to pretend like the question that has been posed by at least a couple on here concerning a unit or two where non landowners have virtually a zero percent chance of drawing a tag has no merit is the epitome of being closed minded.  2E must be one of the top three biggest units in the state.  in the last 2 years, you had virtually no chance of drawing a tag if you didn't have 160 acres.  last year, your chance was zero.  in fact, to be fair, even landowners had a very poor shot at a gratis. but, i don't think that means questioning whether its right that none were available for non landowners makes you anti landowner.and the idea that cutting gratis tags will mean less open land doesn't always hold merit.  it just depends on the landowners you are dealing with.  of those that hunt, there are about four families that i would consider myself closest to in regards to land ownership.  when nobody in those families draws a gratis tag or a regular tag, it actually tends to lead to more land to hunt for the regular joes cause they don't bother posting it cause they won't be hunting.  that doesn't usually affect me.  cause they would likely let me hunt anyway if i asked.  but, the point is, not all landowners get all spiteful and post their land if they don't get a tag.  for some, its just the opposite.  they have a way of seeing things from more than one perspective. strange folk they are.  :;:huhalso, how about the rest of us landowners who don't actually have 160?  i've got 25 acres.  they eat my trees.  they eat my garden.  and i could regularly shoot one off my back steps.  but, i don't deserve a chance at a tag cause i don't make my living off my parcel?  before you answer... no i don't think i do deserve gratis tag.  but, it would be nice to have a chance at a tag... even if it 0.01%.  if i don't draw i just buy a res tag or a bow tag or go pick up an extra doe tag or all of the above.  so, personally, it makes very little difference.  but, the narrative is just to show there are lots of varying viewpoints on this subject that are worth considering.</blockquote>

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