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<blockquote data-quote="BBQBluesMan" data-source="post: 246725" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>A good write up Fritz? Lol. Like I said, I don’t care if you raise elk. Have at it. I have a problem with you marketing as “hunting” with a 100% success rate in which those rich eastern urban folk come to shoot a trophy of a lifetime. Having an 100% success rate and shooting livestock in a fenced area is not hunting. No self respecting sportsman would disagree with that. Market it as shooting livestock and I could care less. Probably a lot harder to sell a $5,000-15,000 dollar pet bull elk to an urban easterner though when you tell them the truth (that its NOT hunting). I get that there are people who are not able to hunt wild elk, and if they want to shoot one inside a fence and it makes them happy, great. But when it's marketed as hunting and they go back and tell people they had a “hunt” of a lifetime and bagged a 300+ bull, I will cringe every time and I will never support calling it hunting. Ever. </p><p></p><p>And to be clear, I was never part of the high fence hunting / fair chase measures. Heck I didn’t even vote on them because there were things on both sides I agreed and disagreed with. I do support private property rights as my family owns land and I hope to buy/inherit some of it someday, but I also don’t agree with high fence “shooting”. I was torn on the issue because I don’t feel others should dictate what a person can and cannot do on their land and I also didn’t like HSUS getting involved and therefore left that box blank on the ballot. If one wants to pen in some elk or bison for a “shoot” on their land and take all the right steps to do so and also to be diligent and prevent wild and domestic interactions, then fine, I don’t like it but to each their own. But again, don’t call it hunting!</p><p></p><p>Anyways. Fritz, you love to poke and prod. You claim to be a sportsman and also to be neutral on this bill or even a tad against it. So why don’t you step up as a sportsmen? For those that can’t think of a reason why not, it’s because he is a big ND Farm Bureau supporter that has helped write policy for them. And speaking of sitting next to people at a hearing, I thought it was cute you sat next to Daryl Lies (president of ND Farm Bureau) during part of the hearing. Funny you didn’t mention that, but not surprising. Your true colors are shining bright Fritz, do you get paid to lobby for Farm Bureau or are you just in bed with them?</p><p></p><p>Bottom line is this bill will affect hunting in North Dakota in a negative way. Criminals will continue their ways and the honest folk will be the ones to take the blow. Less people hunting is not good for the state and there will eventually be less people hunting if this passes. You can take that to the bank, and if you save up enough, you might be able to shoot an elk in a fence. :;:stirthepot</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BBQBluesMan, post: 246725, member: 1007"] A good write up Fritz? Lol. Like I said, I don’t care if you raise elk. Have at it. I have a problem with you marketing as “hunting” with a 100% success rate in which those rich eastern urban folk come to shoot a trophy of a lifetime. Having an 100% success rate and shooting livestock in a fenced area is not hunting. No self respecting sportsman would disagree with that. Market it as shooting livestock and I could care less. Probably a lot harder to sell a $5,000-15,000 dollar pet bull elk to an urban easterner though when you tell them the truth (that its NOT hunting). I get that there are people who are not able to hunt wild elk, and if they want to shoot one inside a fence and it makes them happy, great. But when it's marketed as hunting and they go back and tell people they had a “hunt” of a lifetime and bagged a 300+ bull, I will cringe every time and I will never support calling it hunting. Ever. And to be clear, I was never part of the high fence hunting / fair chase measures. Heck I didn’t even vote on them because there were things on both sides I agreed and disagreed with. I do support private property rights as my family owns land and I hope to buy/inherit some of it someday, but I also don’t agree with high fence “shooting”. I was torn on the issue because I don’t feel others should dictate what a person can and cannot do on their land and I also didn’t like HSUS getting involved and therefore left that box blank on the ballot. If one wants to pen in some elk or bison for a “shoot” on their land and take all the right steps to do so and also to be diligent and prevent wild and domestic interactions, then fine, I don’t like it but to each their own. But again, don’t call it hunting! Anyways. Fritz, you love to poke and prod. You claim to be a sportsman and also to be neutral on this bill or even a tad against it. So why don’t you step up as a sportsmen? For those that can’t think of a reason why not, it’s because he is a big ND Farm Bureau supporter that has helped write policy for them. And speaking of sitting next to people at a hearing, I thought it was cute you sat next to Daryl Lies (president of ND Farm Bureau) during part of the hearing. Funny you didn’t mention that, but not surprising. Your true colors are shining bright Fritz, do you get paid to lobby for Farm Bureau or are you just in bed with them? Bottom line is this bill will affect hunting in North Dakota in a negative way. Criminals will continue their ways and the honest folk will be the ones to take the blow. Less people hunting is not good for the state and there will eventually be less people hunting if this passes. You can take that to the bank, and if you save up enough, you might be able to shoot an elk in a fence. :;:stirthepot [/QUOTE]
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