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<blockquote data-quote="Maddog" data-source="post: 235643" data-attributes="member: 5355">To offer:1) practice shouldering the gun to ensure you are eyesight is right down the top of the rib -- every time AND the shouldering feels natural.&nbsp; If you are hunching over or stretching your neck, it is wrong.The rib should appear as a plane (flat).&nbsp; Practice Practice.&nbsp; I shoulder my shotgun at least 10 times every day in the house.&nbsp; And then track along a wall/ceiling edge.2) You must lead the target. Meaning the barrel must also be moving.3) You shouldn't see the barrel at all.&nbsp; Your concentration needs to be on the bird.&nbsp; Try to concentrate on the head.4) Do NOT flock shoot.&nbsp; Pick one bird and just shoot at it, one shot.&nbsp;&nbsp; Don't worry about multiple shots (for now).5) Shoot the swing through method VS sustained lead.&nbsp;&nbsp; BUTT, BEAK, SHOOT&nbsp; &nbsp; That is don't shoot until the sight picture sees you are past the bird.&nbsp; I took a wingshooting class put on by the DNR.&nbsp; They taught that the sight picture is the same at all yardage.&nbsp; Meaning what it looks like to you at trigger pull is the same, regardless of distance.6) Do not shoot at birds out of range.&nbsp; There is a maximum effective range for shooting.&nbsp; MOST hunters shoot outside their effective range for their gun AND their skill level.7) Pattern your gun.&nbsp; My guess is you are probably using too tight of a choke.&nbsp; I know others will rail on me about this.&nbsp; But in the class with over 30 participants we ALL decided to go with more open chokes.&nbsp; Good luck.I remember when I got my first dog and went ruffed grouse hunting.&nbsp; We flushed up a group of ruffed grouse.&nbsp; I shot 5 times at 5 different birds in open terrain and missed everyone.&nbsp; : )&nbsp;&nbsp; I then decided I needed to put the effort into becoming a better shot.&nbsp; Joined a trap league and practice.We all have bad days shooting where we just aren't sharp or we are worried about work, girls, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maddog, post: 235643, member: 5355"] To offer: 1) practice shouldering the gun to ensure you are eyesight is right down the top of the rib -- every time AND the shouldering feels natural. If you are hunching over or stretching your neck, it is wrong. The rib should appear as a plane (flat). Practice Practice. I shoulder my shotgun at least 10 times every day in the house. And then track along a wall/ceiling edge. 2) You must lead the target. Meaning the barrel must also be moving. 3) You shouldn't see the barrel at all. Your concentration needs to be on the bird. Try to concentrate on the head. 4) Do NOT flock shoot. Pick one bird and just shoot at it, one shot. Don't worry about multiple shots (for now). 5) Shoot the swing through method VS sustained lead. BUTT, BEAK, SHOOT That is don't shoot until the sight picture sees you are past the bird. I took a wingshooting class put on by the DNR. They taught that the sight picture is the same at all yardage. Meaning what it looks like to you at trigger pull is the same, regardless of distance. 6) Do not shoot at birds out of range. There is a maximum effective range for shooting. MOST hunters shoot outside their effective range for their gun AND their skill level. 7) Pattern your gun. My guess is you are probably using too tight of a choke. I know others will rail on me about this. But in the class with over 30 participants we ALL decided to go with more open chokes. Good luck. I remember when I got my first dog and went ruffed grouse hunting. We flushed up a group of ruffed grouse. I shot 5 times at 5 different birds in open terrain and missed everyone. : ) I then decided I needed to put the effort into becoming a better shot. Joined a trap league and practice. We all have bad days shooting where we just aren't sharp or we are worried about work, girls, etc. [/QUOTE]

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