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<blockquote data-quote="db-2" data-source="post: 205555" data-attributes="member: 4743">When the person is from your state and we do not have many who make it big time (but we have some) one will ride the train and stand behind him/her and put him/her up on a throne.When the one is not from your state then it maybe they are just another average person who got lucky.&nbsp; No skill involved.&nbsp; If you surround the quarterback with the best there is and the quarterback sucks you will have a team that may just suck also or at best just another average team.&nbsp; Brady is on top of his world.&nbsp; Yes he may whine but he is up with Montana, Bradshaw, the rest and even Tommy Kramer (never should have sober him up).&nbsp; I respect him and others for their God given skills and efforts.My son shot a deer of lifetime with his bow this year.&nbsp; Yes he found him in 2016 and spent countless hours and I mean countless hours since then to harvest this year and he is the one who pull the bow back.&nbsp; I sat and watched with encouragement and what his needs where.But I gave him life, I bought him his first bow and gun and I brought him into my world.&nbsp; I and family provided for him and helped shape him.Yes for me, it was the same as if I pull the bow back myself and no matter what others think I have the same pride as he has as if I pull the bow back myself (I just can no longer at my age do that, it did not matter if him or I for me)&nbsp; db</blockquote>

[QUOTE="db-2, post: 205555, member: 4743"] When the person is from your state and we do not have many who make it big time (but we have some) one will ride the train and stand behind him/her and put him/her up on a throne. When the one is not from your state then it maybe they are just another average person who got lucky. No skill involved. If you surround the quarterback with the best there is and the quarterback sucks you will have a team that may just suck also or at best just another average team. Brady is on top of his world. Yes he may whine but he is up with Montana, Bradshaw, the rest and even Tommy Kramer (never should have sober him up). I respect him and others for their God given skills and efforts. My son shot a deer of lifetime with his bow this year. Yes he found him in 2016 and spent countless hours and I mean countless hours since then to harvest this year and he is the one who pull the bow back. I sat and watched with encouragement and what his needs where. But I gave him life, I bought him his first bow and gun and I brought him into my world. I and family provided for him and helped shape him. Yes for me, it was the same as if I pull the bow back myself and no matter what others think I have the same pride as he has as if I pull the bow back myself (I just can no longer at my age do that, it did not matter if him or I for me) db [/QUOTE]

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