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<blockquote data-quote="Davy Crockett" data-source="post: 469511" data-attributes="member: 367"><p>“They know it’s going to get permitted, and they know it’s going to be in a state that is open for business,” Bougalis said.</p><p></p><p>It took a whole whopping 24 hours to get project approval. WOW.</p><p> Nothing like approve first and ask questions and make rules later. </p><p></p><p>Based on the oilfield regulations in this state I'd bet the farm that the iron project will be welcomed with open arms and dreams of billions $$$$$$. Then, not if but WHEN times get tough, NAI will be gone and ND citizens will be left with the mess to clean up. </p><p></p><p> MINOT, you better get the horse in front of the cart on this and hire a good lawyer firm to draw up a binding contract because one shut down in Utah back in the 60s or 70s and was a huge eyesore and environmental mess in 2010 and it was still undergoing cleanup. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Cleanup timelines for a shutdown steel smelting location typically range from a few years to several decades, and sometimes longer. Complex sites with extensive contamination may require 30 years or more, especially if groundwater treatment is necessary. </p><p>The wide variation in time is due to several key factors that must be addressed during the remediation process.</p><p>Factors influencing the cleanup timeline</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Extent and type of contamination:</strong> Steel smelting and coking operations produce hazardous pollutants such as heavy metals (lead, mercury), asbestos, benzene, and cyanide. The concentration, type, and depth of these contaminants in the soil and groundwater are major drivers for the cleanup's scope and duration.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Contamination of groundwater:</strong> Addressing polluted groundwater is one of the most time-consuming aspects of site remediation. Extraction and treatment of contaminated water from an aquifer can take many years to complete.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Remediation method:</strong> The cleanup method selected significantly impacts the timeline.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Excavation and removal:</strong> Physically digging up contaminated soil and hauling it to an approved disposal site is relatively fast, but it is also one of the most costly options.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Containment:</strong> Capping a site with clean soil, asphalt, or buildings can effectively contain heavy metals. This method avoids active removal but requires long-term monitoring, sometimes for 30 years or more.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Bioremediation:</strong> Using natural or enhanced biological processes to break down organic contaminants like petroleum products is often less disruptive and cheaper, but it can take longer to complete.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Regulatory oversight:</strong> The involvement of regulatory bodies like the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) can influence the timeline, especially if the site is designated a Superfund site due to severe contamination. Regulatory reviews and multi-phase processes can extend the overall project length.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Planned reuse:</strong> The planned future use of the property affects the required cleanup standards and therefore the timeline.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Industrial use:</strong> Leaving the land as an industrial site may allow for less aggressive cleanup, as the risk of human exposure is lower.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Residential use:</strong> Redeveloping the site for housing requires a much more thorough and protective cleanup due to the high risk of long-term exposure for residents, especially children.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Facility size and number of structures:</strong> The physical footprint of the site and the number of buildings and foundations to demolish or treat affect the project's scale. Large former plants, like the Wisconsin Steel Works, have extensive grounds to clean up.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Financing and funding:</strong> Securing the necessary funding for cleanup can be a lengthy process. Many steel sites are brownfields, former industrial properties that require public-private partnerships or government funding for redevelopment. </li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Davy Crockett, post: 469511, member: 367"] “They know it’s going to get permitted, and they know it’s going to be in a state that is open for business,” Bougalis said. It took a whole whopping 24 hours to get project approval. WOW. Nothing like approve first and ask questions and make rules later. Based on the oilfield regulations in this state I'd bet the farm that the iron project will be welcomed with open arms and dreams of billions $$$$$$. Then, not if but WHEN times get tough, NAI will be gone and ND citizens will be left with the mess to clean up. MINOT, you better get the horse in front of the cart on this and hire a good lawyer firm to draw up a binding contract because one shut down in Utah back in the 60s or 70s and was a huge eyesore and environmental mess in 2010 and it was still undergoing cleanup. Cleanup timelines for a shutdown steel smelting location typically range from a few years to several decades, and sometimes longer. Complex sites with extensive contamination may require 30 years or more, especially if groundwater treatment is necessary. The wide variation in time is due to several key factors that must be addressed during the remediation process. Factors influencing the cleanup timeline [LIST] [*][B]Extent and type of contamination:[/B] Steel smelting and coking operations produce hazardous pollutants such as heavy metals (lead, mercury), asbestos, benzene, and cyanide. The concentration, type, and depth of these contaminants in the soil and groundwater are major drivers for the cleanup's scope and duration. [*][B]Contamination of groundwater:[/B] Addressing polluted groundwater is one of the most time-consuming aspects of site remediation. Extraction and treatment of contaminated water from an aquifer can take many years to complete. [*][B]Remediation method:[/B] The cleanup method selected significantly impacts the timeline. [LIST] [*][B]Excavation and removal:[/B] Physically digging up contaminated soil and hauling it to an approved disposal site is relatively fast, but it is also one of the most costly options. [*][B]Containment:[/B] Capping a site with clean soil, asphalt, or buildings can effectively contain heavy metals. This method avoids active removal but requires long-term monitoring, sometimes for 30 years or more. [*][B]Bioremediation:[/B] Using natural or enhanced biological processes to break down organic contaminants like petroleum products is often less disruptive and cheaper, but it can take longer to complete. [/LIST] [*][B]Regulatory oversight:[/B] The involvement of regulatory bodies like the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) can influence the timeline, especially if the site is designated a Superfund site due to severe contamination. Regulatory reviews and multi-phase processes can extend the overall project length. [*][B]Planned reuse:[/B] The planned future use of the property affects the required cleanup standards and therefore the timeline. [LIST] [*][B]Industrial use:[/B] Leaving the land as an industrial site may allow for less aggressive cleanup, as the risk of human exposure is lower. [*][B]Residential use:[/B] Redeveloping the site for housing requires a much more thorough and protective cleanup due to the high risk of long-term exposure for residents, especially children. [/LIST] [*][B]Facility size and number of structures:[/B] The physical footprint of the site and the number of buildings and foundations to demolish or treat affect the project's scale. Large former plants, like the Wisconsin Steel Works, have extensive grounds to clean up. [*][B]Financing and funding:[/B] Securing the necessary funding for cleanup can be a lengthy process. Many steel sites are brownfields, former industrial properties that require public-private partnerships or government funding for redevelopment. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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