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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 183656" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>Apres, Time and again as fritz shared we have witnessed "good intentions" and promises that sounded good only become the stepping stone to what you and others claim you do not want to happen all across the west with these orgs. </p><p></p><p>You simply can not discount that becasue this time it is here in ND. </p><p></p><p>ND unlike other western states where many communities are impacted by these federal policies, has a small percentage of it;s lands owned by the Federal govt so if this vision was able to be managed by those here in the state without the courts and agendas controling what happened I would not have a problem with setting aside undisturbed portions of the LMNG. </p><p></p><p>But as kurt says and I refered to this is a pipe dream/unicorn wish. We HAVE to understand and accept the realities of what happens. </p><p></p><p>I have been to meetings with folks like this on several occassions. If they beleive you are a supporter you can find out what their true intentions and desires to see happen are. I would bet you a steak supper if you came across as a supporter and shared the links to the Wild lands project" I shared earlier of wildlife corridors undisturnbed by human activities these people would be all for taking these private lands and converting them to accomplish it. </p><p></p><p>I ave shared links ot this before. <a href="https://www.americanprairie.org/" target="_blank">https://www.americanprairie.org/</a></p><p></p><p>Sounds great right? All the right things are being said and who can argue against helping preserve nature. Until you talkwith people in the communities that actaully feel the impacts of what is happening. All the players start to emerge, The Nature Conservancy, the World Wildlife Fund, ect....... millions from outside this country and "nonprofits" (how do "nonprofits" have millions in reserves anyways) </p><p></p><p>"<span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'">Shortly after TNC published its findings, </span></span><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"><strong>World Wildlife Fund</strong></span></span></span><span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"> decided to initiate a conservation effort in the Montana Glaciated Plains, one of the key areas identified by TNC. They determined that an independent entity, capable of focusing all of its time and resources on the preservation of Montana’s Northern Great Plains, would be the best vehicle through which to initiate a large-scale conservation effort. In June 2001, The Prairie Foundation was officially formed as an independent non-profit organization, later named American Prairie Foundation and now simply American Prairie Reserve.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"></span></span><span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'">Today, American Prairie Reserve is a freestanding Montana-based nonprofit that started to assemble land in 2004. Our </span></span><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"><strong>main focus is to purchase and permanently hold title to private lands that glue together a vast mosaic of existing public lands</strong></span></span><span style="color: #202020"><span style="font-family: 'Roboto'"> so that the region is managed thoughtfully and collaboratively with state and federal agencies for wildlife conservation and public access.</span></span></p><p></p><p>WWF supports hunting.........as long as it is on THEIR terms. <a href="http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/how_we_work/our_global_goals/species_programme/species_news/wwf_and_trophy_hunting/" target="_blank">http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/how_we_work/our_global_goals/species_programme/species_news/wwf_and_trophy_hunting/</a></p><p></p><p>Take a look at those driving the org. behind this designation here in ND. <a href="http://www.badlandsconservationalliance.org/board-staff/" target="_blank">http://www.badlandsconservationalliance.org/board-staff/</a></p><p></p><p>They have their token "growing up on a family ranch" and "avid hunter" board member and the rest are a predictable cross section of those you see in the orgs I continue to mention that push their agendas. </p><p></p><p>Give us one reason to beleive this org will be any different than any of the other orgs across the west pushing their agendas onto these lands.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>the PMs were plains has been caught lying about. PMs were plains denied it happened even after it was shown to be true. </p><p></p><p>The bottom line is plainsman still supported their actions and would not hold them accountable but rather made excuses. </p><p></p><p>Fritz and I have learned firsthand to not trust what plains claims.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 183656, member: 373"] Apres, Time and again as fritz shared we have witnessed "good intentions" and promises that sounded good only become the stepping stone to what you and others claim you do not want to happen all across the west with these orgs. You simply can not discount that becasue this time it is here in ND. ND unlike other western states where many communities are impacted by these federal policies, has a small percentage of it;s lands owned by the Federal govt so if this vision was able to be managed by those here in the state without the courts and agendas controling what happened I would not have a problem with setting aside undisturbed portions of the LMNG. But as kurt says and I refered to this is a pipe dream/unicorn wish. We HAVE to understand and accept the realities of what happens. I have been to meetings with folks like this on several occassions. If they beleive you are a supporter you can find out what their true intentions and desires to see happen are. I would bet you a steak supper if you came across as a supporter and shared the links to the Wild lands project" I shared earlier of wildlife corridors undisturnbed by human activities these people would be all for taking these private lands and converting them to accomplish it. I ave shared links ot this before. [URL]https://www.americanprairie.org/[/URL] Sounds great right? All the right things are being said and who can argue against helping preserve nature. Until you talkwith people in the communities that actaully feel the impacts of what is happening. All the players start to emerge, The Nature Conservancy, the World Wildlife Fund, ect....... millions from outside this country and "nonprofits" (how do "nonprofits" have millions in reserves anyways) "[COLOR=#202020][FONT=Roboto]Shortly after TNC published its findings, [/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=Roboto][B]World Wildlife Fund[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][COLOR=#202020][FONT=Roboto] decided to initiate a conservation effort in the Montana Glaciated Plains, one of the key areas identified by TNC. They determined that an independent entity, capable of focusing all of its time and resources on the preservation of Montana’s Northern Great Plains, would be the best vehicle through which to initiate a large-scale conservation effort. In June 2001, The Prairie Foundation was officially formed as an independent non-profit organization, later named American Prairie Foundation and now simply American Prairie Reserve. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#202020][FONT=Roboto]Today, American Prairie Reserve is a freestanding Montana-based nonprofit that started to assemble land in 2004. Our [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=Roboto][B]main focus is to purchase and permanently hold title to private lands that glue together a vast mosaic of existing public lands[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#202020][FONT=Roboto] so that the region is managed thoughtfully and collaboratively with state and federal agencies for wildlife conservation and public access.[/FONT][/COLOR] WWF supports hunting.........as long as it is on THEIR terms. [URL]http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/how_we_work/our_global_goals/species_programme/species_news/wwf_and_trophy_hunting/[/URL] Take a look at those driving the org. behind this designation here in ND. [url]http://www.badlandsconservationalliance.org/board-staff/[/url] They have their token "growing up on a family ranch" and "avid hunter" board member and the rest are a predictable cross section of those you see in the orgs I continue to mention that push their agendas. Give us one reason to beleive this org will be any different than any of the other orgs across the west pushing their agendas onto these lands. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] the PMs were plains has been caught lying about. PMs were plains denied it happened even after it was shown to be true. The bottom line is plainsman still supported their actions and would not hold them accountable but rather made excuses. Fritz and I have learned firsthand to not trust what plains claims. [/QUOTE]
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