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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lunkerslayer" data-source="post: 484171" data-attributes="member: 217">There is also other factors as well that keep nunbers down besides habitat or diseases for that matter and that is more predators and human development into areas that didnt have 20+ years ago. Its a shame on development when parts of cites have infrastructure that extist abandon and instead of rezoning those areas for future growth its sits. And with no demand for fur you get cycles of  increase pressure from predators that take out the younger population.I remember my dad talking about the hunting back in the 60s and 70s where deer populations were really presumably lower, where the technology we have now made it much harder to get a guaranteed bag that year. Majority back then party hunted in my unit which is 2d, deer were kicked out of clusters of trees or the gourge itself. Then later that day if you happened to glass a dear out in a shelter belt at low light from the road and managed to shoot it, you tracked that animal until you found it because deer were hard to come by. I knew many families in my high school that didnt care to eat venison because it was so gamey compared to the venison we are used to now. I remember hearing stories of hunters driving down crp and kicking up deer to shoot them from the box, most never did that because many never owned a 4x4 pickup to be able to do that but those who did sure as shit did, because back then people did things that were rarely enforced. Most hunters in this area untilized jeep wagaoneers or the international scout because it could go places other vehicles couldn't that were more affordable readily available or you hunted with the family car.  Even in the early 90s when i started hunting we still party hunted because it was a traditional thing to do and it was all that we knew how to do, to be more successful at bagging a deer especially in the 2d unit. Now the baiting and deer stand thing has become a better option because less of my family either passed or don't hunt.Thats why i dont understand how the ndgnf can estimate with any accuracy as to how many deer are in the 2d unit which has got to be or if not has the most habitat and still i haven't drawn a tag in three years and no we didnt get hit by the boogeyman that many claim is killing large population of deer called cwd.So where it starts is a better process of actual numbers of deer populations is key to understanding how many deer tags can be alloted to the hunters every year. Its not like we dont have the technology to actually find out and track numbers, with gps trackers and thermal drones that can actually make it an easy process to count a herd during the winter months. The ndgf could easily hire people during the winter months especially during this time of year where deer are more active during the day, yesterday i must have seen 8 doe family groups that came out of the river bottom to forage.Im not a leader when it comes to actively pushing a political agenda into the public and more so a keyword activist. But i have no problem contacting my local representative if i feel an agenda needs to be addressed and the ndgf would have no problem hiring parttime help doing surveys during the winter months finding and getting the data needed to find out with relative accuracy as to how many deer are in a particular unit. So with that said my rambling actually has a solution that could work if the right people were involved in making it happen, what the actual logistics to make it happen i dont know but i would have no problem calling or putting my information on to a survey to help the ndgf find out how much support is from the public to get the people and the technology to actually make counting deer possible. So anyone here  know of anyone in the ndgf that can actually ask them why my solution isnt a viable option?But i know this for certain why besides the above reasons as to why deer populations are lower is because big interest groups like insurance companies dont want to help bring up a sustainable deer populations for hunters. The insurance companies are seeing higher prices to fix automobiles when deer causes an accident,  I got rear ended a month iand half ago in my 2019 ford f150 and since its got an aluminum body it cant be fixed like a traditional steel body can, instead of replacing pieces of sheet metal the whole box needed to be replaced because aluminum flexes and stretches causing ripples in the box. It was over close 15000 dollars to replace the box, tailgate , bumper and tail lights. I feel your pain my  hunting brethren but the bottom line is we are fighting against forces that have deeper pockets then majority of you and i who dont care to help make our deer populations number better and it has less to do with farmers when they are doing what they are paid to do produce a product that is sustainable for our very existence.Thats why if i dont draw again i will go to Minnesota this fall because hell or higb water i want some langdon locker sausage in my freezer.</blockquote>

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