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<blockquote data-quote="SLE" data-source="post: 421775" data-attributes="member: 3889"><p>NDSportsman, so you didn't go to school from K-12 grade? If so, who paid for that? </p><p></p><p>To me there's a larger problem that needs attention;</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately there's too much to argue on this thread and not enough folks really willing to spend their time actually being involved. Got a problem with how the County, Township, School District, EMS is taxing you on your property taxes. Go to the meetings, get on a board, volunteer for committee's, be involved and part of the solution instead of the peanut gallery. Showing up to a single meeting once a year isn't being involved..........................Ask youself, If your not willling to truely be involved, how much do your property taxes really mean to you? Does it take a persons time, dedication, and to be somewhat selfless? Yep it sure does. Considering our elected officials are making decisions that affect all of our financial wellness, you would honostely think meetings would be packed and people would be lining up to run for boards, offices, and committees. Unfortunately that isn't the case. Most board/council meetings have a few to no one attending. Many boards/councils have to beg to get applicaitons to run for an open seat.</p><p></p><p>Honostly, this even goes as far as the poles and how many citizens actually go vote. On average its what, 10-20% of elgible voters for local election and voting. This past June for instance in Ward County they had 8,400+- votes cast in a County with 53k elgible voters. State wide was a tick better with 120k of almost 600k elgible voters casting votes. So when less than 20% of the population care enough to show up to vote, how many actually care enough to be involvde? 1%? 2%? 5%? Just something to ponder.</p><p></p><p>Is the system currently in place fair, of course not. It's based on the ability to pay and not on what services you receive. Just like state and federal income tax. Those that make the most, also pay the most, and more than not, those that pay the most often times use gov services the least.</p><p></p><p>Why should one persons property taxes be 3 times that of their neighbors? They use the same roads, get the same county, township, and school services. It's all about the mentality that if they can afford the nicer property/home, they can afford to pay more in tax. Socialistic approach, you bet.</p><p></p><p>Everyone is complaining about their taxes going up the last few years, and maybe I missed it in the 30+ pages, but some of this can be boiled back to the extreme inflation the country has seen. There's not way a school, county, township or any other entity can provide the same level of service for the same dollars today as they did 4 years ago. What aren't you paying more for today, more less probably double now, than you did 4-5 years ago? Insurance, food, transportation, recreational stuff, etc.. Thinking taxes are going to go down or to even be flat is a misnomer with out looking at inflation.</p><p></p><p>Like many, I'm not a fan of property taxes either, but leaving it up to our state legislators to figure it out with no frame work scares the hell out of me a lot more than being able to go to my local county, township, or school board and have local representation and involvement. Good luck thinking your voice will be heard at the state level..................If you think you will pay less, as the quote from grandpa gustafson goes <em>"well, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first". RIP Burgess Meredith......................</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SLE, post: 421775, member: 3889"] NDSportsman, so you didn't go to school from K-12 grade? If so, who paid for that? To me there's a larger problem that needs attention; Unfortunately there's too much to argue on this thread and not enough folks really willing to spend their time actually being involved. Got a problem with how the County, Township, School District, EMS is taxing you on your property taxes. Go to the meetings, get on a board, volunteer for committee's, be involved and part of the solution instead of the peanut gallery. Showing up to a single meeting once a year isn't being involved..........................Ask youself, If your not willling to truely be involved, how much do your property taxes really mean to you? Does it take a persons time, dedication, and to be somewhat selfless? Yep it sure does. Considering our elected officials are making decisions that affect all of our financial wellness, you would honostely think meetings would be packed and people would be lining up to run for boards, offices, and committees. Unfortunately that isn't the case. Most board/council meetings have a few to no one attending. Many boards/councils have to beg to get applicaitons to run for an open seat. Honostly, this even goes as far as the poles and how many citizens actually go vote. On average its what, 10-20% of elgible voters for local election and voting. This past June for instance in Ward County they had 8,400+- votes cast in a County with 53k elgible voters. State wide was a tick better with 120k of almost 600k elgible voters casting votes. So when less than 20% of the population care enough to show up to vote, how many actually care enough to be involvde? 1%? 2%? 5%? Just something to ponder. Is the system currently in place fair, of course not. It's based on the ability to pay and not on what services you receive. Just like state and federal income tax. Those that make the most, also pay the most, and more than not, those that pay the most often times use gov services the least. Why should one persons property taxes be 3 times that of their neighbors? They use the same roads, get the same county, township, and school services. It's all about the mentality that if they can afford the nicer property/home, they can afford to pay more in tax. Socialistic approach, you bet. Everyone is complaining about their taxes going up the last few years, and maybe I missed it in the 30+ pages, but some of this can be boiled back to the extreme inflation the country has seen. There's not way a school, county, township or any other entity can provide the same level of service for the same dollars today as they did 4 years ago. What aren't you paying more for today, more less probably double now, than you did 4-5 years ago? Insurance, food, transportation, recreational stuff, etc.. Thinking taxes are going to go down or to even be flat is a misnomer with out looking at inflation. Like many, I'm not a fan of property taxes either, but leaving it up to our state legislators to figure it out with no frame work scares the hell out of me a lot more than being able to go to my local county, township, or school board and have local representation and involvement. Good luck thinking your voice will be heard at the state level..................If you think you will pay less, as the quote from grandpa gustafson goes [I]"well, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first". RIP Burgess Meredith......................[/I] [/QUOTE]
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