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<blockquote data-quote="Allen" data-source="post: 374694" data-attributes="member: 389"><p>"let them figure it out" kind of reminds me of boot camp where the Drill Instructor would come in after you've just cleaned the squad bay and they'd tear shit apart just so you'd have to clean everything all over again. In this case it would appear the electorate is the drill instructor, recruits are the elected officials, and the squad bay's the tax system.</p><p></p><p>I don't ever remember the squad bay actually getting any cleaner the 2nd or 3rd time around.</p><p></p><p>I think a lack of property tax will cause an incredible rush on non-residents buying property in ND. There's no way around that, property taxes are currently a considerable annual expense associated with owning a piece of land, house, or lake cabin. You remove that and property values will skyrocket. Great for existing property owners, not so good for our kids' ability to buy something down the road.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As usual, such radical shifts in public law will absolutely create winners and losers going forward as the tax burden shifts from one segment of the population to another. Since I build my life around existing conditions, it is a virtual certainty this is setting me up to once again come out on the short end of things. If you built your life around the existing conditions, including the tax code, you (like me) are being setup to shoulder more of the burden. </p><p></p><p>Sorry peeps, but I am convinced there are several kinds of people who are for something like this. The first are those who are intentionally planning on shifting their tax burden onto someone else (these are the worst of our neighbors). The second are those who have been misled into thinking it will shift their tax burden onto someone else (perhaps the dumbest of our neighbors). </p><p></p><p>After them we have those who think this will somehow prompt our elected officials into lowering their overall budget(s) for services provided to the residents of ND, that's not how govt works. Given the amount of history we have to learn from, it amazes me there's this large of a segment of the population. Govt budgets are set by the amount of services, entitlements, and goods we the population have demanded from the govt. For every example given where "I" think the govt should cut their budget, there's at least another voter out there who is demanding that as a higher priority than "I" think it should be. That's called democracy.</p><p></p><p>IMHO, the best way to fight against higher taxes is to attend the City, Township, County, and State meetings where actual budgets and projects are discussed and voted on. There tends to be very low public attendance at such meetings and those from the general public that do take the time out of their day to attend a given meeting are the ones hoping to get their pet project funded.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Allen, post: 374694, member: 389"] "let them figure it out" kind of reminds me of boot camp where the Drill Instructor would come in after you've just cleaned the squad bay and they'd tear shit apart just so you'd have to clean everything all over again. In this case it would appear the electorate is the drill instructor, recruits are the elected officials, and the squad bay's the tax system. I don't ever remember the squad bay actually getting any cleaner the 2nd or 3rd time around. I think a lack of property tax will cause an incredible rush on non-residents buying property in ND. There's no way around that, property taxes are currently a considerable annual expense associated with owning a piece of land, house, or lake cabin. You remove that and property values will skyrocket. Great for existing property owners, not so good for our kids' ability to buy something down the road. As usual, such radical shifts in public law will absolutely create winners and losers going forward as the tax burden shifts from one segment of the population to another. Since I build my life around existing conditions, it is a virtual certainty this is setting me up to once again come out on the short end of things. If you built your life around the existing conditions, including the tax code, you (like me) are being setup to shoulder more of the burden. Sorry peeps, but I am convinced there are several kinds of people who are for something like this. The first are those who are intentionally planning on shifting their tax burden onto someone else (these are the worst of our neighbors). The second are those who have been misled into thinking it will shift their tax burden onto someone else (perhaps the dumbest of our neighbors). After them we have those who think this will somehow prompt our elected officials into lowering their overall budget(s) for services provided to the residents of ND, that's not how govt works. Given the amount of history we have to learn from, it amazes me there's this large of a segment of the population. Govt budgets are set by the amount of services, entitlements, and goods we the population have demanded from the govt. For every example given where "I" think the govt should cut their budget, there's at least another voter out there who is demanding that as a higher priority than "I" think it should be. That's called democracy. IMHO, the best way to fight against higher taxes is to attend the City, Township, County, and State meetings where actual budgets and projects are discussed and voted on. There tends to be very low public attendance at such meetings and those from the general public that do take the time out of their day to attend a given meeting are the ones hoping to get their pet project funded. [/QUOTE]
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