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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Retired Educator" data-source="post: 132029" data-attributes="member: 3373">As a long time educator I mostly agree with everything that was said above. I say mostly because some of the statements had words like "all", etc. "A lot" or "several" or something similar would be more accurate. Several people asked me after more than 30 years as an educator "How have the kids changed?" I don't think the kids changed much at all, it was the parents who changed. For the most part, kids will pretty much do what parents expect. Or at least will learn to do what is expected, low or high. There are always going to be exceptions. Never did figure out what made some people tick. You could have a family of 4-5 kids and every kid but one would act like the parents and everyone else would want, and then there would be that one that was just rebellious. Never did have an answer. And then you will get some students who question authority. Always enjoyed the students who actually had a valid point and made an effort to change a rule that did not necessarily make sense as times changed. Once had a student who wanted to leave school early to work at her job. School did not allow that. Spent many days discussing (arguing with her) the situation and was finally smart enough to think she had a point. She was an A student, did not have a class that period that she was missing, and other than a school rule what was it going to hurt. Worked to change the school rule to make it fair for everyone (had some stipulations about maintaining grades etc.) and we both got what we wanted. She got to work, and I got rid of the problem of enforcing a rule that really didn't serve any valuable purpose. To this day I wonder about school authorities who end up in the news by making a big deal out of some minor offense. Unless you live in a community that has some gang affiliation related to hair color, is it really that big of a classroom interruption when a student comes to school with green hair?Everybody above who pushed for parents being parents is correct. It's a great idea to let your kids make their own decisions, if those decisions are correct That's where parenting becomes important. Aiding your children in making correct decisions. You're not going to be around forever, use your time wisely. When your kids get out on their own, what you as a parent have instilled in them is what will determine their success later in life. Did hear an interesting story many years ago about a school supt/prin back in the 60's who had a unique way of reaching some students. Have no idea whether this is completely true or whether the story has gotten better over time. Evidently this individual, when he had trouble with a student he arranged a hunting trip. Now this was back in the day when most goose-hunting involved sitting on the "firing line", some of you won't have any idea what that is. The student and supt/prin spent the morning hunting and visiting about life. For the most part they would come to an understanding and it all worked out, no more problems. As with most older stories, this may have gotten better over time but those of us who hunt and fish with our kids realize how important that time together is.</blockquote>

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