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<blockquote data-quote="deleted user" data-source="post: 450087" data-attributes="member: 1778"><p>If you are on a local sportsman board, you are at the same table as any other org. I know someone on the wildlife federation board, and this “table “ doesn’t involve landowners because they’re usually discussing volunteer jobs on G&F land or habitat projects on private land that the owner made an agreement on.</p><p></p><p>The subsidy thing usually comes up when a landowner declares that johnny public has no vested interest in the wildlife/ag world. Sometimes a low blow IMO.</p><p></p><p>Wildlife is a public resource, no debate about it. Nobody expects nor should they expect us landowners to foster the population. Sure people get upset when they see habitat go under the plow. There are tools available if they become a nuisance.</p><p></p><p>Literally never heard of anybody claiming rights to access private property. Not once. In MN only ag land is automatically no trespassing.</p><p></p><p>If you really think that the Ag/Landowner group has no input on <strong>any</strong> bill regarding wildlife, hunting, or land, you’re crazy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Honestly both sides are guilty. Some hunters see every landowner as the “you’re touching my corn” guy. Some landowners see every hunter as a poacher / freeloader / trespasser.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line I guess if you’re that upset with hunters, post your land. End of story.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I really don’t mean to sound like a dick. I know how some of my posts come across. But I think the final trump card is landowners have is “OK, it’s posted”. And if you don’t want to post it, don’t. Majority of landowners let a guy hunt if they ask. The ones who do the most squawking were never saying yes anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="deleted user, post: 450087, member: 1778"] If you are on a local sportsman board, you are at the same table as any other org. I know someone on the wildlife federation board, and this “table “ doesn’t involve landowners because they’re usually discussing volunteer jobs on G&F land or habitat projects on private land that the owner made an agreement on. The subsidy thing usually comes up when a landowner declares that johnny public has no vested interest in the wildlife/ag world. Sometimes a low blow IMO. Wildlife is a public resource, no debate about it. Nobody expects nor should they expect us landowners to foster the population. Sure people get upset when they see habitat go under the plow. There are tools available if they become a nuisance. Literally never heard of anybody claiming rights to access private property. Not once. In MN only ag land is automatically no trespassing. If you really think that the Ag/Landowner group has no input on [B]any[/B] bill regarding wildlife, hunting, or land, you’re crazy. Honestly both sides are guilty. Some hunters see every landowner as the “you’re touching my corn” guy. Some landowners see every hunter as a poacher / freeloader / trespasser. Bottom line I guess if you’re that upset with hunters, post your land. End of story. Edit: I really don’t mean to sound like a dick. I know how some of my posts come across. But I think the final trump card is landowners have is “OK, it’s posted”. And if you don’t want to post it, don’t. Majority of landowners let a guy hunt if they ask. The ones who do the most squawking were never saying yes anyway. [/QUOTE]
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