What's new
Forums
Members
Resources
Whopper Club
Politics
Pics
Videos
Fishing Reports
Classifieds
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Members
Resources
Whopper Club
Politics
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
General
General Discussion
SB 2315 - Database Study Comm Mtg 8/26
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="njsimonson" data-source="post: 267431" data-attributes="member: 1507"><p>There were 912 criminal trespass charges in ND in 2018. SOURCE: <a href="https://attorneygeneral.nd.gov/sites/ag/files/documents/2018-CrimeReport.pdf" target="_blank">https://attorneygeneral.nd.gov/sites/ag/files/documents/2018-CrimeReport.pdf</a>. Of those, 720 occurred within the city limits of Bismarck, Fargo, Grand Forks and Minot and were handled by their police departments. A good chunk of the remaining 192 were handled by police departments in smaller towns, meaning that criminal trespass, in and of itself, is a predominantly urban/in-town problem in North Dakota, and, since no one can hunt in city limits, is an act predominantly <strong>committed by <u>NON-HUNTERS</u></strong> in the state. </p><p> </p><p>Criminal trespass cited by G&F in 2018 was a mere <u><strong>27 OCCURRENCES</strong></u>. Hunting on posted land without permission was just 54 violations. Source: <a href="https://gf.nd.gov/news/2983" target="_blank">https://gf.nd.gov/news/2983</a> (I don't know where the number 65 comes from). </p><p></p><p>From second-hand reports in my conversations this week with those in attendance, there were good call-outs by the sportsmen's representatives regarding loosening the strings on access, including the creation of WMAs, WPAs and other public lands which are tied up with special interest groups having veto power on that particular land transfer group in NDCC Ch. 10-6 for any parcel that comes before them - as this committee isn't just about "the database" it's also about "access" in this state and should be studying that as well.</p><p></p><p>On that topic, it should be difficult for the special interests to scream "property rights" when referencing 2315, this committee and whatever might come after it when 1) requiring people to post their land as "open" or enter it in a database restricts the right of property owners equally, just on the opposite side of the coin, and 2) that somehow a magic government/special interest board gets the power to limit the free transfer of land in a capitalist society where dollars (and other interests, such as leaving a legacy, opening hunting, etc.) drive the free market. This was also brought up by sportsman's reps at the first meeting. </p><p></p><p>What will really need to happen in 2021 is the removal of the special interest groups from this section of the code: <a href="https://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t10c06-1.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t10c06-1.pdf</a>, which places unreasonable review restrictions on the creation of public lands through NGO-transfer to the G&F. It'll be interesting to see if the primarily-Republican legislature will get behind free-market economies and amend this highly-restrictive code, by removing private groups having influence over private individuals' decisions, which ultimately hurts those landowners looking to transfer lands for reasons other than money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="njsimonson, post: 267431, member: 1507"] There were 912 criminal trespass charges in ND in 2018. SOURCE: [URL]https://attorneygeneral.nd.gov/sites/ag/files/documents/2018-CrimeReport.pdf[/URL]. Of those, 720 occurred within the city limits of Bismarck, Fargo, Grand Forks and Minot and were handled by their police departments. A good chunk of the remaining 192 were handled by police departments in smaller towns, meaning that criminal trespass, in and of itself, is a predominantly urban/in-town problem in North Dakota, and, since no one can hunt in city limits, is an act predominantly [B]committed by [U]NON-HUNTERS[/U][/B] in the state. Criminal trespass cited by G&F in 2018 was a mere [U][B]27 OCCURRENCES[/B][/U]. Hunting on posted land without permission was just 54 violations. Source: [URL]https://gf.nd.gov/news/2983[/URL] (I don't know where the number 65 comes from). From second-hand reports in my conversations this week with those in attendance, there were good call-outs by the sportsmen's representatives regarding loosening the strings on access, including the creation of WMAs, WPAs and other public lands which are tied up with special interest groups having veto power on that particular land transfer group in NDCC Ch. 10-6 for any parcel that comes before them - as this committee isn't just about "the database" it's also about "access" in this state and should be studying that as well. On that topic, it should be difficult for the special interests to scream "property rights" when referencing 2315, this committee and whatever might come after it when 1) requiring people to post their land as "open" or enter it in a database restricts the right of property owners equally, just on the opposite side of the coin, and 2) that somehow a magic government/special interest board gets the power to limit the free transfer of land in a capitalist society where dollars (and other interests, such as leaving a legacy, opening hunting, etc.) drive the free market. This was also brought up by sportsman's reps at the first meeting. What will really need to happen in 2021 is the removal of the special interest groups from this section of the code: [URL]https://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t10c06-1.pdf[/URL], which places unreasonable review restrictions on the creation of public lands through NGO-transfer to the G&F. It'll be interesting to see if the primarily-Republican legislature will get behind free-market economies and amend this highly-restrictive code, by removing private groups having influence over private individuals' decisions, which ultimately hurts those landowners looking to transfer lands for reasons other than money. [/QUOTE]
Verification
What is the most common fish caught on this site?
Post reply
Recent Posts
S
Spring has sprung-
Latest: snow2
37 minutes ago
J
Missouri River Bismarck area
Latest: Johnny Five
Today at 3:21 PM
J
Burleigh co. Ditches debate
Latest: Johnny Five
Today at 3:18 PM
ND bighorn sheep lottery
Latest: Jiffy
Today at 2:36 PM
G
POS
Latest: Grizzly Adams
Today at 1:54 PM
Fargo PD
Latest: Maddog
Today at 1:41 PM
Morels
Latest: johnr
Today at 11:49 AM
Twins
Latest: Rowdie
Today at 10:01 AM
Garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Latest: lunkerslayer
Today at 8:46 AM
Sale
Remington 788 222
Latest: shorthairsrus
Today at 7:31 AM
What are you listening to these days?
Latest: svnmag
Yesterday at 11:27 PM
A.I. Are you Excited?
Latest: Rowdie
Yesterday at 9:04 PM
Little heart well pipe.
Latest: Achucker
Yesterday at 1:04 PM
Oahe 26
Latest: Jiffy
Yesterday at 10:58 AM
Predictions for deer season 26
Latest: bucksnbears
Yesterday at 7:31 AM
Gm
Latest: NDSportsman
Yesterday at 7:20 AM
Accuracy Oil YT
Latest: svnmag
Wednesday at 7:49 PM
M
Contemplating a shop build
Latest: Mike Fretty
Wednesday at 5:43 PM
S
2007 Yukon headrest
Latest: scrotcaster
Wednesday at 3:13 PM
Buying gold and silver.
Latest: Big Iron
Wednesday at 10:18 AM
S
Retardation (turkey shells) YT
Latest: snow2
Tuesday at 8:41 PM
Ice Fishing
Latest: bowcarp
Tuesday at 5:59 PM
Boat carpet
Latest: Slappy
Tuesday at 5:44 PM
Friends of NDA
Forums
General
General Discussion
SB 2315 - Database Study Comm Mtg 8/26
Top
Bottom