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<blockquote data-quote="Trip McNeely" data-source="post: 258350" data-attributes="member: 728"><p>lets be honest and call a spade a spade. Without subsidies and other taxpayer backed programs how many farms would still on the land..... seriously not being arrogant or snarky. Im asking an honest question here. How many would have gone under and not own the land they are so adament on protecting their “rights” (still have every</p><p>”right” to post that same land and control access under current law. I honestly think this is where the beef may be. Farming is a damn risky business. No one is arguing or trying to beat down farmers... but can we be honest about things before we proceed in comprimising solutions down the road? Is leaving some land open to hunting a fair trade for subsidies or disaster payments or</p><p>federal crop insurance? Serious question. Usually when someone puts something into the pot(taxes) they wish to gain something</p><p>in return. Thats what a potluck is correct? Everyone wins at a potluck dinner. Is it really too much to ask to put up signs(landowner right) in exchange for safety and certainty in an extremely volitile and risky career? Just asking a serious question. This is where the hang up is i believe. In my humble opinion this bill is like suggesting we all have a potluck dinner and only sportsmen are required to bring something(tax dollars) to the table. Potlucks generally suck shit if u are the only one bringing anything. Everybody seriously needs to step back and have a serious honest discussion with themselves. 1. Sportsman need to do alot better job respecting the wishes of landowners who post. 2. Landowners need to realize is it really a big deal if the absentee down the road doesnt post. Or maybe guys could leave a quarter unposted for guys to hunt. Is it really a big deal if someone shoots 5 ducks on your land? If this thing is gunna turn into a money thing it could get alot worse for both side. Both sides need to fkn chill and look at whats really important to keeping north dakota farms in the family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trip McNeely, post: 258350, member: 728"] lets be honest and call a spade a spade. Without subsidies and other taxpayer backed programs how many farms would still on the land..... seriously not being arrogant or snarky. Im asking an honest question here. How many would have gone under and not own the land they are so adament on protecting their “rights” (still have every ”right” to post that same land and control access under current law. I honestly think this is where the beef may be. Farming is a damn risky business. No one is arguing or trying to beat down farmers... but can we be honest about things before we proceed in comprimising solutions down the road? Is leaving some land open to hunting a fair trade for subsidies or disaster payments or federal crop insurance? Serious question. Usually when someone puts something into the pot(taxes) they wish to gain something in return. Thats what a potluck is correct? Everyone wins at a potluck dinner. Is it really too much to ask to put up signs(landowner right) in exchange for safety and certainty in an extremely volitile and risky career? Just asking a serious question. This is where the hang up is i believe. In my humble opinion this bill is like suggesting we all have a potluck dinner and only sportsmen are required to bring something(tax dollars) to the table. Potlucks generally suck shit if u are the only one bringing anything. Everybody seriously needs to step back and have a serious honest discussion with themselves. 1. Sportsman need to do alot better job respecting the wishes of landowners who post. 2. Landowners need to realize is it really a big deal if the absentee down the road doesnt post. Or maybe guys could leave a quarter unposted for guys to hunt. Is it really a big deal if someone shoots 5 ducks on your land? If this thing is gunna turn into a money thing it could get alot worse for both side. Both sides need to fkn chill and look at whats really important to keeping north dakota farms in the family. [/QUOTE]
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