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<blockquote data-quote="deleted user" data-source="post: 258456" data-attributes="member: 1778">I like the idea of getting this sorted out without our states dinosaurs and elected lobbyists. However, this bill was pushed by the ND Farm Bureau (All land must be in production), ND Stockmans Association (All land not in production must be grazed) etc. There is also support from a small group of landowners (the lock out crew) who hated hunters to begin with, and will never be swayed to side with any increase in recreational land access. I believe no matter what the public thinks, this will continually show up, due to its origins.MOST landowners I’ve talked to, myself included, see through the various veils presented to us. It’s not a landowners rights bill, it’s not a trespass bill, it’s a bill to weaken public interest in recreation; reducing opposition to big ag initiatives. Yet, the rep’s claimed overwhelming support for it. It would do nothing to curtail trespassing. They did a great job fooling some into thinking it would. What I’m getting at, is I would love to see some sort of have a couple beers and BS round table. Landowners and outdoorsmen/women, GNF, no politicians or lobbyists. I think we’d find quite a bit more common ground that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="deleted user, post: 258456, member: 1778"] I like the idea of getting this sorted out without our states dinosaurs and elected lobbyists. However, this bill was pushed by the ND Farm Bureau (All land must be in production), ND Stockmans Association (All land not in production must be grazed) etc. There is also support from a small group of landowners (the lock out crew) who hated hunters to begin with, and will never be swayed to side with any increase in recreational land access. I believe no matter what the public thinks, this will continually show up, due to its origins. MOST landowners I’ve talked to, myself included, see through the various veils presented to us. It’s not a landowners rights bill, it’s not a trespass bill, it’s a bill to weaken public interest in recreation; reducing opposition to big ag initiatives. Yet, the rep’s claimed overwhelming support for it. It would do nothing to curtail trespassing. They did a great job fooling some into thinking it would. What I’m getting at, is I would love to see some sort of have a couple beers and BS round table. Landowners and outdoorsmen/women, GNF, no politicians or lobbyists. I think we’d find quite a bit more common ground that way. [/QUOTE]

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