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<blockquote data-quote="KDM" data-source="post: 440760" data-attributes="member: 314"><p>Nice rant BrockW. Everything you said still doesn't explain why Colorado and Wyoming still have strong deer and elk herds after 58 and 38 years respectively of having cwd. IF and I do mean IF this ailment is so dangerous, why haven't the deer and elk herds died off? Deer live what, 5-6 years in the wild and elk about 10-11. That equals 9 generations of deer in Colorado and almost 6 generations of elk. To be honest, I'm not buying the whole apocalyptic end of deer and elk scenario you and others want to put forth. In fact, I think the cwd argument is more interested in the money and political influence that comes with scaring the general public and particularly sportsmen into thinking all the deer are going to die. I say this because if you were really concerned about the deer and elk herds you would put an equal, if not more effort into the study and elimination of EHD. EHD is a real herd killer. When there is an outbreak of EHD, anyone can find the dead deer laying all around water sources. I found 9 carcasses on my own land alone when the last EHD outbreak hit ND with no problem whatsoever. Why can't we find the same thing for cwd? You love to bring scientific studies into this, but you can't quite grasp the fact that it doesn't matter how many studies you bring forth stating cwd kills deer and elk and claiming cwd will decimate deer and elk populations when simple observations indicate the herds are doing fine. All the banning, shooting, culling, astronomical tag numbers, special hunts, and whatever other hairbrained schemes were concocted to control this thing have FAILED MISERABLY! Interestingly enough, after all that and decades of screaming cwd is 100% fatal and will wipe out the deer and elk herds if not controlled, the deer and elk herds in those states with cwd are still there, still having fawns, and still doing what they do in spite of cwd. So, what gives? Why the full court press? Oh yes, now I remember. It might, could, maybe, perhaps, possibly affect people. Well after decades of people eating venison from herds that have cwd.............what happened? Are venison eating people stacked up in the hospitals and clinics? Maybe just a dozen or two? Sorry BrockW, I have zero confidence that cwd is anything other than a cash cow and political bludgeoning stick to impose an agenda on the public and particularily sportsmen. Go after EHD if you want to conserve deer and elk herds. More bang for your buck IMO. Carry On!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KDM, post: 440760, member: 314"] Nice rant BrockW. Everything you said still doesn't explain why Colorado and Wyoming still have strong deer and elk herds after 58 and 38 years respectively of having cwd. IF and I do mean IF this ailment is so dangerous, why haven't the deer and elk herds died off? Deer live what, 5-6 years in the wild and elk about 10-11. That equals 9 generations of deer in Colorado and almost 6 generations of elk. To be honest, I'm not buying the whole apocalyptic end of deer and elk scenario you and others want to put forth. In fact, I think the cwd argument is more interested in the money and political influence that comes with scaring the general public and particularly sportsmen into thinking all the deer are going to die. I say this because if you were really concerned about the deer and elk herds you would put an equal, if not more effort into the study and elimination of EHD. EHD is a real herd killer. When there is an outbreak of EHD, anyone can find the dead deer laying all around water sources. I found 9 carcasses on my own land alone when the last EHD outbreak hit ND with no problem whatsoever. Why can't we find the same thing for cwd? You love to bring scientific studies into this, but you can't quite grasp the fact that it doesn't matter how many studies you bring forth stating cwd kills deer and elk and claiming cwd will decimate deer and elk populations when simple observations indicate the herds are doing fine. All the banning, shooting, culling, astronomical tag numbers, special hunts, and whatever other hairbrained schemes were concocted to control this thing have FAILED MISERABLY! Interestingly enough, after all that and decades of screaming cwd is 100% fatal and will wipe out the deer and elk herds if not controlled, the deer and elk herds in those states with cwd are still there, still having fawns, and still doing what they do in spite of cwd. So, what gives? Why the full court press? Oh yes, now I remember. It might, could, maybe, perhaps, possibly affect people. Well after decades of people eating venison from herds that have cwd.............what happened? Are venison eating people stacked up in the hospitals and clinics? Maybe just a dozen or two? Sorry BrockW, I have zero confidence that cwd is anything other than a cash cow and political bludgeoning stick to impose an agenda on the public and particularily sportsmen. Go after EHD if you want to conserve deer and elk herds. More bang for your buck IMO. Carry On! [/QUOTE]
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