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<blockquote data-quote="KDM" data-source="post: 440847" data-attributes="member: 314"><p>Ok BrockW, just for fun I chose Kansas to do some research on. First off Kansas itself claims their deer herd is growing and has been for the last 22 years. It's the first statement I saw when I googled Kansas deer herd growing by the way. Kansas has had cwd since 2001. That means the deer herd in Kansas has been growing the whole time cwd has been there. Also, an interesting point is that you CAN BAIT in Kansas on private land. So how do you justify wanting to implement bait bans again? See also the effectiveness of bait bans in Wyoming, Colorado, Minnesota, and others. </p><p></p><p>I then looked into new york where you stated culling worked. According to the cwd alliance website map, the only place cwd was found was in captive herds in central New York. I found conflicting reports from "Official" sites that state no wild deer were found with cwd and then there are those that state there were. Regardless, NY used culling to eliminate those captive herds and then does it for simple population control in urban settings. NY just identified another deer from a captive herd last year, so I guess culling captive deer works, but I haven't seen where culling operations worked for ANY wild deer herds.</p><p></p><p>On to Colorado. ONE....yes ONE herd in Co reported a reduction in cwd prevalence. However, they themselves, the state, report that this was due to sustained hunting and culling campaigns. Well no shit. Kill 80% of the deer and I'll bet you will get an 80% reduction in cwd prevalence when compared to the begining. Kill them with a bullet so they don't die from cwd. That's as rediculous as Pelosi's "Pass it so we know what's in it" lunacy.</p><p></p><p>I could go on, but this is making my head hurt. CWD is a non-issue and nobody anywhere has been able to show me evidence to the contrary. Nothing but a political cash and power grab through fear mongering and public scare tactics. </p><p></p><p>Carry On!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KDM, post: 440847, member: 314"] Ok BrockW, just for fun I chose Kansas to do some research on. First off Kansas itself claims their deer herd is growing and has been for the last 22 years. It's the first statement I saw when I googled Kansas deer herd growing by the way. Kansas has had cwd since 2001. That means the deer herd in Kansas has been growing the whole time cwd has been there. Also, an interesting point is that you CAN BAIT in Kansas on private land. So how do you justify wanting to implement bait bans again? See also the effectiveness of bait bans in Wyoming, Colorado, Minnesota, and others. I then looked into new york where you stated culling worked. According to the cwd alliance website map, the only place cwd was found was in captive herds in central New York. I found conflicting reports from "Official" sites that state no wild deer were found with cwd and then there are those that state there were. Regardless, NY used culling to eliminate those captive herds and then does it for simple population control in urban settings. NY just identified another deer from a captive herd last year, so I guess culling captive deer works, but I haven't seen where culling operations worked for ANY wild deer herds. On to Colorado. ONE....yes ONE herd in Co reported a reduction in cwd prevalence. However, they themselves, the state, report that this was due to sustained hunting and culling campaigns. Well no shit. Kill 80% of the deer and I'll bet you will get an 80% reduction in cwd prevalence when compared to the begining. Kill them with a bullet so they don't die from cwd. That's as rediculous as Pelosi's "Pass it so we know what's in it" lunacy. I could go on, but this is making my head hurt. CWD is a non-issue and nobody anywhere has been able to show me evidence to the contrary. Nothing but a political cash and power grab through fear mongering and public scare tactics. Carry On! [/QUOTE]
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