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<blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 153037" data-attributes="member: 373"><p>Here is a <strong>VERY</strong> applicable video to this discussion shared by a friend just this morning. For some reason plainsman came to mind...............</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK4KPJcHyo&feature=share" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK4KPJcHyo&feature=share</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>So why do some oppose trying to keep these public lands public? </p><p></p><p>Why do some not bother to try fixing a broken system? </p><p></p><p>Or worse yet make fools accusations against those that are? </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Why do some make wild accusations aimed to distract and divert away from facts shared instead of working to find a solution? </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So plainsman I am confused, should we have not amended our state Constitution to have protected the right to hunt and fish? Was that a "far left" idea to do that? </p><p></p><p>Bruce you are apparently confused i your old age. the bill I am suggesting those concerned should support has NOTHING to do with the transfer of public lands, it is about returning accountability to where the monies go under the Equal Access to Justice Act those green decoys use to sue the govt with YOUR tax dollars. </p><p></p><p>It appears you do not even know what I am talking about despite your copying and pasting of portions of the text. </p><p></p><p>Do you even bother reading what is posted before you jump to your keyboard to make stupid accusations?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p>That is why we can not have nice things around here.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>So you have made 8 calls to oppose a bill transferring lands to state control/ </p><p></p><p>And yet you will not make one call to work towards fixing the system....................and people wonder why it is broken</p><p></p><p>Once again THIS is the bill that needs our support plainsman. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://gosar.house.gov/press-release/rep-gosar-cosponsors-bipartisan-legislation-reform-equal-access-justice-act" target="_blank">http://gosar.house.gov/press-release...ss-justice-act</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong>WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, U.S. Congressman Paul A. Gosar, D.D.S. (AZ-04) released the following statement after joining five other original sponsors in introducing H.R. 3279, the Open Book on Equal Access to Justice Act, which aims to strengthen the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA) by reinstating the tracking and reporting requirements for how much money is being paid out by the federal government under this law:</strong></span></span><strong><br /> <span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">“Given the rampant waste, fraud and abuse that has infected the federal government, increasing transparency of how taxpayer dollars are spent is more important than ever. The intent of the Equal Access to Justice Act was to help the average Joe fight back against an overreaching and oppressive federal government. Unfortunately, this well-intentioned law has been hijacked by environmentalists whose lawyers are billing taxpayers for rates as high as $750 an hour.”</span></span><br /> <span style="color: #666666"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">“Environmental groups have abused EAJA and used it as a money-making tool to advance their far left agenda. Our bipartisan bill will restore common sense to this law and crack down on these abuses.”</span></span></strong></span></td></tr></table><p></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Plainsman grazing is a "liitle deal" along with mining, logging, recreation ect...when viewed alone out of the big picture. You forgot to include one word in your quote. "<strong>their </strong>little deal" </p><p></p><p>I don't "want the Federal land" nor do I want grazing protected at the expense of hunting on these lands, or grazing at the expense of logging or any other portion of the multiple use agreements these lands were originally returned to the Federal govt by the states under. </p><p></p><p>If the Federal govt is not honoring the promises they made to the states when the state agreed to turn these lands back tp the Federal govt is it not the state obligation to change their Constitutions to hold the Federal govt accountable? </p><p></p><p>That was kind of the ideal of those fellas that founded this nation. </p><p></p><p>So if you wish to get into a dick measuring contest about who wants to protect hunting more or who hunts more or any other foolishly childish argument you likely aren;t going to win, but it is a distraction from the bigger picture of holding the Federal govt accountable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gst, post: 153037, member: 373"] Here is a [B]VERY[/B] applicable video to this discussion shared by a friend just this morning. For some reason plainsman came to mind............... [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK4KPJcHyo&feature=share[/URL] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] So why do some oppose trying to keep these public lands public? Why do some not bother to try fixing a broken system? Or worse yet make fools accusations against those that are? [SIZE=3][B]Why do some make wild accusations aimed to distract and divert away from facts shared instead of working to find a solution? [/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] So plainsman I am confused, should we have not amended our state Constitution to have protected the right to hunt and fish? Was that a "far left" idea to do that? Bruce you are apparently confused i your old age. the bill I am suggesting those concerned should support has NOTHING to do with the transfer of public lands, it is about returning accountability to where the monies go under the Equal Access to Justice Act those green decoys use to sue the govt with YOUR tax dollars. It appears you do not even know what I am talking about despite your copying and pasting of portions of the text. Do you even bother reading what is posted before you jump to your keyboard to make stupid accusations? [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] That is why we can not have nice things around here. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] So you have made 8 calls to oppose a bill transferring lands to state control/ And yet you will not make one call to work towards fixing the system....................and people wonder why it is broken Once again THIS is the bill that needs our support plainsman. [URL="http://gosar.house.gov/press-release/rep-gosar-cosponsors-bipartisan-legislation-reform-equal-access-justice-act"]http://gosar.house.gov/press-release...ss-justice-act[/URL] [COLOR=#333333][TABLE="class: cms_table, width: 0, align: center"] [TR] [TD][SIZE=4][COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial][B]WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, U.S. Congressman Paul A. Gosar, D.D.S. (AZ-04) released the following statement after joining five other original sponsors in introducing H.R. 3279, the Open Book on Equal Access to Justice Act, which aims to strengthen the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA) by reinstating the tracking and reporting requirements for how much money is being paid out by the federal government under this law:[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][B] [COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial]“Given the rampant waste, fraud and abuse that has infected the federal government, increasing transparency of how taxpayer dollars are spent is more important than ever. The intent of the Equal Access to Justice Act was to help the average Joe fight back against an overreaching and oppressive federal government. Unfortunately, this well-intentioned law has been hijacked by environmentalists whose lawyers are billing taxpayers for rates as high as $750 an hour.”[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#666666][FONT=Arial]“Environmental groups have abused EAJA and used it as a money-making tool to advance their far left agenda. Our bipartisan bill will restore common sense to this law and crack down on these abuses.”[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/COLOR] [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Plainsman grazing is a "liitle deal" along with mining, logging, recreation ect...when viewed alone out of the big picture. You forgot to include one word in your quote. "[B]their [/B]little deal" I don't "want the Federal land" nor do I want grazing protected at the expense of hunting on these lands, or grazing at the expense of logging or any other portion of the multiple use agreements these lands were originally returned to the Federal govt by the states under. If the Federal govt is not honoring the promises they made to the states when the state agreed to turn these lands back tp the Federal govt is it not the state obligation to change their Constitutions to hold the Federal govt accountable? That was kind of the ideal of those fellas that founded this nation. So if you wish to get into a dick measuring contest about who wants to protect hunting more or who hunts more or any other foolishly childish argument you likely aren;t going to win, but it is a distraction from the bigger picture of holding the Federal govt accountable. [/QUOTE]
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