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<blockquote data-quote="Lycanthrope" data-source="post: 58847" data-attributes="member: 562">When the VLD was first introduced in the late 80's Walt would receive&nbsp; reports that the bullets would not shoot well.&nbsp; During this time it was&nbsp; much more common in reloading to jump the bullets.&nbsp; Walt along with many&nbsp; other BR shooters knew that putting a bullet into the rifling could&nbsp; produce improved precision so this is what he recommended to those&nbsp; having trouble with the VLD.In many rifles this change worked so we started recommending that&nbsp; everyone put the VLD into the lands.&nbsp; This is where the phase &quot;VLDs are&nbsp; not magazine friendly&quot; was born.&nbsp; To seat the bullet out to touch the&nbsp; rifling required a COAL that was too long to feed through the magazine&nbsp; in most rifles.When shooters reported poor performance when putting the VLDs into the&nbsp; lands we concluded that not all rifles/barrels would shoot the VLDs.This is where we made our mistake.&nbsp; The thing we ignored was that many&nbsp; shooters were very successful shooting the VLDs with a jump.&nbsp; It just so&nbsp; happened that these folks weren't calling with problems.&nbsp; For years we&nbsp; told folks &quot;jam the VLDs&quot; and that &quot;VLDs are not magazine friendly.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Today we know the truth.The truth is that VLDs ARE sensitive to seating depth.&nbsp; VLDs shoot best&nbsp; in a given &quot;sweet spot.&quot;&nbsp; For some this is jammed into the rifling while&nbsp; others find the best precision by jumping the VLD as much as .150.&nbsp; This truth has become clear to us as the VLD becomes more popular as a&nbsp; game hunting bullet.&nbsp; Hunters with top quality rifles who have never&nbsp; jammed a bullet in their lives (due to problems this can create in the&nbsp; field) are reporting excellent precision.&nbsp; At first we thought this to&nbsp; be a lucky circumstance from those who made initial reports but then we&nbsp; started paying attention to competition shooters who were saying the&nbsp; same thing.Our current published recommendation is to try the VLD at both .010 into&nbsp; and .010 off of the rifling.&nbsp; We are changing this recommendation.&nbsp; When&nbsp; shooting a VLD you will get the best performance at a COAL somewhere&nbsp; between .020 into the rifling or .150 off of the rifling.&nbsp; It is well&nbsp; worth the effort to find the right spot.&nbsp; If you do this, you will see why VLDs are so popular among those who do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lycanthrope, post: 58847, member: 562"] When the VLD was first introduced in the late 80's Walt would receive reports that the bullets would not shoot well. During this time it was much more common in reloading to jump the bullets. Walt along with many other BR shooters knew that putting a bullet into the rifling could produce improved precision so this is what he recommended to those having trouble with the VLD. In many rifles this change worked so we started recommending that everyone put the VLD into the lands. This is where the phase "VLDs are not magazine friendly" was born. To seat the bullet out to touch the rifling required a COAL that was too long to feed through the magazine in most rifles. When shooters reported poor performance when putting the VLDs into the lands we concluded that not all rifles/barrels would shoot the VLDs. This is where we made our mistake. The thing we ignored was that many shooters were very successful shooting the VLDs with a jump. It just so happened that these folks weren't calling with problems. For years we told folks "jam the VLDs" and that "VLDs are not magazine friendly." Today we know the truth. The truth is that VLDs ARE sensitive to seating depth. VLDs shoot best in a given "sweet spot." For some this is jammed into the rifling while others find the best precision by jumping the VLD as much as .150. This truth has become clear to us as the VLD becomes more popular as a game hunting bullet. Hunters with top quality rifles who have never jammed a bullet in their lives (due to problems this can create in the field) are reporting excellent precision. At first we thought this to be a lucky circumstance from those who made initial reports but then we started paying attention to competition shooters who were saying the same thing. Our current published recommendation is to try the VLD at both .010 into and .010 off of the rifling. We are changing this recommendation. [B]When shooting a VLD you will get the best performance at a COAL somewhere between .020 into the rifling or .150 off of the rifling. It is well worth the effort to find the right spot[/B]. If you do this, you will see why VLDs are so popular among those who do. [/QUOTE]

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