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<blockquote data-quote="jdinny" data-source="post: 300800" data-attributes="member: 875">go off load data of the same weight bullet from another brand. if your reloading purley off a manual without checking pressure signs of brass you may sooner or later run into a problem. do yourself a favor learn what pressure signs look like and you wont need a loading manualif you understand pressure signs and what to look for. start low work up....- - - Updated - - -for instance i dont own a relaoding manual. i shoot 100% exclusivey berger VLD,s or elite hunters. i just broke in and am curretly working my 6mm CM up. i took hogdon load data of H4350 for a 107 gr bullet. im shooting the 105 VLD i started low worked up found my max, back off. this gun just shot .357&quot; group at 200 yards.- - - Updated - - -im sure plenty with disagree with me on the manual but if i could choose a manual or understanding pressure signs i would choose understanding pressure signs well before ever owning a manual. reloading manuals are a good starting point but should never be the end all gospel truth</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jdinny, post: 300800, member: 875"] go off load data of the same weight bullet from another brand. if your reloading purley off a manual without checking pressure signs of brass you may sooner or later run into a problem. do yourself a favor learn what pressure signs look like and you wont need a loading manual if you understand pressure signs and what to look for. start low work up.... [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] for instance i dont own a relaoding manual. i shoot 100% exclusivey berger VLD,s or elite hunters. i just broke in and am curretly working my 6mm CM up. i took hogdon load data of H4350 for a 107 gr bullet. im shooting the 105 VLD i started low worked up found my max, back off. this gun just shot .357" group at 200 yards. [COLOR="silver"][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] im sure plenty with disagree with me on the manual but if i could choose a manual or understanding pressure signs i would choose understanding pressure signs well before ever owning a manual. reloading manuals are a good starting point but should never be the end all gospel truth [/QUOTE]

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