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<blockquote data-quote="Traxion" data-source="post: 314104" data-attributes="member: 983">I agree that if you're hunting Idaho it's not a good comparison.&nbsp; I know when I plan my OOS elk adventures I'm looking for solid populations and avoid areas that have predator issues.&nbsp; But I don't hunt Idaho.&nbsp; But, the point simply is that if you're paying for a license, folks should have the ability to check population data that is tracked by the states.&nbsp; Don't care if it is birds, deer, elk, or fish.&nbsp; Those data sets, as little as you seem to trust them, are the only comparative data we have from year to year.&nbsp; Withholding that from the public is wrong, just on general principle.&nbsp; The public owns the wildlife and pays licenses to hunt it.&nbsp; Withholding that information is not transparent or honest, something I expect from a government entity.&nbsp; And doing so to enhance revenue is even more wrong.&nbsp; You are correct in that we have it good here.&nbsp; Especially in the NC part of the state.&nbsp; But, I spend a lot of time in the SC part and pheasant hunting is nearly 100% pay to play.&nbsp; In the small town my inlaws live near, none of the residents hunt.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Lodges, absentee NR landowners, and pay hunting.&nbsp; It's just that simple, they don't really have anywhere to hunt.&nbsp; It's viewed totally as a business down there, not as good local fun.&nbsp; A local guy might get to go in late season and hunt here or there, but for most it's road hunting or nothing.&nbsp; The impact of commercialized hunting is huge.&nbsp; I actually think SD plays the waterfowl game about right.&nbsp; Maybe a bit too restrictive.&nbsp; But, the peak migration where EVERYONE wants to hunt is fairly short.&nbsp; The limit on licenses keeps that timeline from becoming a complete crapshow.&nbsp; This fall the ducks were packed into about 5 roosts on the east side of the state.&nbsp; Huge numbers but not a lot of opportunities.&nbsp; Smart hunters show up outside this window and have still good opportunities.&nbsp; Simply put, the NR waterfowl restriction keeps the peaks from becoming a mess.&nbsp; And the peaks seem to be later and shorter anymore.....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Traxion, post: 314104, member: 983"] I agree that if you're hunting Idaho it's not a good comparison. I know when I plan my OOS elk adventures I'm looking for solid populations and avoid areas that have predator issues. But I don't hunt Idaho. But, the point simply is that if you're paying for a license, folks should have the ability to check population data that is tracked by the states. Don't care if it is birds, deer, elk, or fish. Those data sets, as little as you seem to trust them, are the only comparative data we have from year to year. Withholding that from the public is wrong, just on general principle. The public owns the wildlife and pays licenses to hunt it. Withholding that information is not transparent or honest, something I expect from a government entity. And doing so to enhance revenue is even more wrong. You are correct in that we have it good here. Especially in the NC part of the state. But, I spend a lot of time in the SC part and pheasant hunting is nearly 100% pay to play. In the small town my inlaws live near, none of the residents hunt. Why? Lodges, absentee NR landowners, and pay hunting. It's just that simple, they don't really have anywhere to hunt. It's viewed totally as a business down there, not as good local fun. A local guy might get to go in late season and hunt here or there, but for most it's road hunting or nothing. The impact of commercialized hunting is huge. I actually think SD plays the waterfowl game about right. Maybe a bit too restrictive. But, the peak migration where EVERYONE wants to hunt is fairly short. The limit on licenses keeps that timeline from becoming a complete crapshow. This fall the ducks were packed into about 5 roosts on the east side of the state. Huge numbers but not a lot of opportunities. Smart hunters show up outside this window and have still good opportunities. Simply put, the NR waterfowl restriction keeps the peaks from becoming a mess. And the peaks seem to be later and shorter anymore..... [/QUOTE]

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