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<blockquote data-quote="Marbleyes" data-source="post: 186697" data-attributes="member: 675">First I would agree with quite a bit of what was written here, then I would like to ask this interweb dude what any of this ultimately has to do with trump and this specific topic right now. This is the exact same kind of stuff that pissed you off (and rightfully so) when obama and the other liberals did the exact same thing for years when all they would say is it's bush's fault, no matter what the topic actually was. Do you not remember how irritating it was when the liberals were doing it? I do. Why act exactly like what you despise about liberals. Why not just be better than them? It wasn't relevant when liberals did it and it is equally irrelevant now. That's what I would say if some interweb dude posted that. But that's just me. It's almost impossible to have a direct discussion about a specific topic when the go to is basically &quot;but obama did this&quot; or &quot;bush did that&quot;. Yes, he wasn't honest when it suited him. That sounds exactly like every president and almost every politician I have seen for decades. It won't change if we don't make it. The hypocracy from both political &quot;teams&quot; is never ending. I can show you more examples if you want but that doesn't help stay on topic at all. That's what I would say. Got a feeling I will be getting some negative reps for this but this is honestly how I see it and a major reason why I can't get on board with either &quot;team&quot;. You don't have to agree, that's one of many great things about this country.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marbleyes, post: 186697, member: 675"] First I would agree with quite a bit of what was written here, then I would like to ask this interweb dude what any of this ultimately has to do with trump and this specific topic right now. This is the exact same kind of stuff that pissed you off (and rightfully so) when obama and the other liberals did the exact same thing for years when all they would say is it's bush's fault, no matter what the topic actually was. Do you not remember how irritating it was when the liberals were doing it? I do. Why act exactly like what you despise about liberals. Why not just be better than them? It wasn't relevant when liberals did it and it is equally irrelevant now. That's what I would say if some interweb dude posted that. But that's just me. It's almost impossible to have a direct discussion about a specific topic when the go to is basically "but obama did this" or "bush did that". Yes, he wasn't honest when it suited him. That sounds exactly like every president and almost every politician I have seen for decades. It won't change if we don't make it. The hypocracy from both political "teams" is never ending. I can show you more examples if you want but that doesn't help stay on topic at all. That's what I would say. Got a feeling I will be getting some negative reps for this but this is honestly how I see it and a major reason why I can't get on board with either "team". You don't have to agree, that's one of many great things about this country. [/QUOTE]

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