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Message: <blockquote data-quote="luvcatchingbass" data-source="post: 208639" data-attributes="member: 1979"><p>Our lab Sadie is 7 now and next year we will be getting another chocolate lab from the same breeder. They do not focus on pure hunting but aim to have great family dogs that will hunt. I did all the training on Sadie not knowing anything about birds really, grew up with cattle blue healers, and I can say that I have got what I put in and most of the deficiencies I see reflect my choices. For me I look forward to the challenge again and seeing if I actually learned anything myself. One thing to remember is obedience obedience obedience, Sadie has the instincts but just needed the field time and experience to get better as it was natural to them while obedience is not . A book from Brad Dokken actually was really helpful even though it was more waterfowl but the same principles seemed to work for upland to me.</p><p>Good Luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>

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